Quote from: vapourminer on July 30, 2018, 03:13:13 PM

Quote from: Piskeante on July 30, 2018, 03:02:34 PM

So now, you have NOTHING TO DO THAN SWITCH TO ETH fucking those that stayed away from your shitty coins and never wanted to enter your shitty market. I actually don't care about your fucking arguments. You, and people like you, are fucking up people like me, switching your fucking cards to mine a coin which was not your main idea in the past. So , you paid off your cards mining whatever shitty coin pro-nvidia you encountered, and now you fuck up people that still want to ROI even having bought cards at half MSRP prices. GTFO PoS.

You, and all nvidia guys should leave ETH. Because you mined your coins, and now you are destroying our coin. Get out of ETH nvidia guys. This is not meant for you. Go away.

mining is for profit. and thats about all it is.. to make profit. whatever the coin or algo. if a coin cant survive massive amounts of hash power sloshing around then it will die off. survival of the fittest. adapt or die.

sure there are some miners who mine just to support a particular coin but its a pretty small amount compared to "for profit" miner. and thats fine. i have done that myself here and there in the past.

btw i currently have both amd and nvidia cards (and had ASICs in the past), and have mined since more or less continually since 2011. and yes my hash, for the most part, has followed whatever algo or coin that made the most profit.

i also have 2 1060 on my rigs. And eventhough i knew those cards were better mining Zcash, i stayed away from that. Why? because my investment was to mine ETH. and if ETH failed, i would have left the market and sell my rigs. no doubt. i never trusted other coin than ETH. In fact, i could have built much more rigs for ETH. and i didn't do it. Why? Because first of all i'm not a greedy bastard like many miners here. And 2º because i knew that i was actually harming people that were already mining, and my point was to get enough for me harming those guys the minimum. I entered mining ETH in October 2017. i even considered my goal to get 300€ a month after paying my bills. This was, according to that time, doable.

any coin can survive massive amounts of hash power net wise. the problem is the price. The more hashpower the more supply, the less price. Nvidia guys have now no place to go so no profit and now they are harming ETH miners (AMD related hardware). I undestand that miners are in search for profit. but i will not allow a fucking nvidia retarded to tell me i'm a crybaby, because i'm winning less money due to people like him, switching his cards to mine ETH even at 0 profit , harming my economical interest. at current prices, and current difficulty, it will take me at least 20 more months to even ROI. the perfect storm is here.

I don't need this money. In fact, i hate this market. i'm ready to sell and pray everyday for the end of this big lie, but i will keep my machines ON to fuck up those ASICS and nvidia guys as much as possible. Greed is the biggest cancer of this world. It's proved day after day.

Quote from: TGJ on July 30, 2018, 03:15:24 PM

Quote from: Piskeante on July 30, 2018, 03:02:34 PM

Quote from: lunobird on July 30, 2018, 02:41:23 PM

What so hard to believe? All my Nvidia rigs that is paid off from the last bull run is now mining eth. I break even with electric bc their is nothing else better to mine.

Soo many people are in my shoes where we mine for zero profits and depend on future value increase.

I see too many crybabies here looking for someone to blame. It is what it is. Mining has been met with full market saturation. Ride through the rough times or get out of the mining game.

you bought Nvidia cards to mine altcoins pro-nvidia (where AMD could not get) like Zcash. i stayed away from that because i considered those coins to be shitty coins. i bought AMD because i was sure to mine ETH from the begining. I knew by that time that Nvidia cards were more efficient than AMD cards, but with a bit of tweaks and lots of hours of testing, btw, i got to equal efficiency with huge advantages over Nvidia cards, using almost 130W. with the price of one 1070 i could buy two amd cards. And card to card efficiency my 570-580 were almost equal to 1070's doing 30mh/s. i could match even THE BEST 1070'S OF THE MARKET doing 32mh/s with cards that cost half of those.

So now, you have NOTHING TO DO THAN SWITCH TO ETH fucking those that stayed away from your shitty coins and never wanted to enter your shitty market. I actually don't care about your fucking arguments. You, and people like you, are fucking up people like me, switching your fucking cards to mine a coin which was not your main idea in the past. So , you paid off your cards mining whatever shitty coin pro-nvidia you encountered, and now you fuck up people that still want to ROI even having bought cards at half MSRP prices. GTFO PoS.

You, and all nvidia guys should leave ETH. Because you mined your coins, and now you are destroying our coin. Get out of ETH nvidia guys. This is not meant for you. Go away.

Are you for real? Guys with Nvidia cards should not be allowed to mine ETH? I think if you are so butthurt about this you should just sell your cards and get out of the game.

No, i will keep them ON just to increase my best the difficulty so that guys like you mining for loses. And hope the market destroys you.