Quote from: Jarijah on August 02, 2018, 03:33:55 AM

Quote from: LeGaulois on August 02, 2018, 12:42:00 AM

You can't call a safe haven a market like the crypto-market that is highly volatile and unpredictable. Safe means safe, what is safe to put your money in cryptos knowing that the market can crash at any moment? In December last year the BTC price was at $20k now at $8k, is it what you call safe?

Valid point taken. I guess what they mean to say is to store your assets in investment opportunities to survive or even thrive during the crisis. I believe that when shit hits the fan again, the dollar will go down again, will people flock to crypto. If the dollar goes down, does that mean the price of bitcoin will go up? if so, that seems a solid investment.

Gold is considered safe, but if the dollar is strong, it's better to stay out of it. The crash of BTC last december is just euphoria running out of steam and mass panic cash out.

That's a point that most people missed about BTC last December. It wasn't a crash, it was just the end of the first wave of massive euphoria that tripped it up. There's no saying that bitcoin is supposed to be worth this or worth that at this stage because it's still trying to find a ground for itself after such a huge movement.

The dollar has been way too high lately, people have been saying it's overvalued for the past year and a half. If I had any dollars right now they'd be in bitcoin or gold, because those are the ones that are quite low. But like mentioned above:

Quote from: iamwagner on August 02, 2018, 01:35:21 AM

You have to have Fiat + Gold + Crypto + Food. If you leave out one of these you may find yourself in dire straights as the collapse happens. Crypto is a very key part of my strategy of surviving the economic collapse.

Gotta have a bit of everything. So the dollar still has some value in terms of exchange. People will still be interested in it, even if there is a collapse. Or something more secure, like Francs