Quote from: Ale88 on August 06, 2018, 02:28:53 PM

Dunque ragazzi, le comiche nella chat Telegram continuano senza sosta. Quell'utente esterno che già vi menzionavo, un certo Miiike, ha continuato ad insistere per ottenere più informazioni, ecco le sue domande e le "risposte" che ha ottenuto dove aver scritto molto chiarimento:

Utente: Can you help confirming what's on your ann thread? In short, people accused that your claim of checking 12,000 participants could not be valid as your bounty participants according to your spreadsheet is barely a quarter of it.

Ubiatar: Please send email to: bounty@ubiatarplay.io. This is the official chat for taking about the amazing app and project of Ubiatarplay. All of you willbe assisted by Ubiatarplay team from Monday ro Friday from 8.00 a. M. To 20.00 p. m. Thank you

Utente: Well, I'm not part of any bounty of yours. My question is solely to see how serious your project is or how close is it to a scam (at least for the case of your bounty payment), as you didn't attend to any of those and it begin to be kinda evasive.

I believe, as I'm not part of your campaign and didn't have any business on the payment, my question can be considered as a question for your project. Thus, asked and should be answered here

Ubiatar: Dear Miiike, we are pleased to inform you about our project. First of all we invite you to read the white paper. Thank you the website is: ubiatarplay.io

Utente: I'm sorry, I don't get how reading your wp can help me better understand about what your answer will be ("will be" as you are yet to answer the question). Not that I mind reading your entire WP, but first I think I need to know before I spent several minutes, is there an info about my question on your wp?

Ubiatar: Dear Miiike, I am sorry, but I don' t understand what you would like to know. If you would like information about bounty program, please write an email to: bounty@ubiatarplay.io, if you need information about the UbiatarPlay Project , please write an email to info@ubiatarplay.io, if the already published information for you are not enough. An entire team is available for answering and support the user. Thank you and please, help us in understanding clearly what is your question. Thank you

Utente: Well, in short, is it true that you have 12,000 bounty participants? And if you do, why does people think there were actually only a quarter (or eve one-sixth of it). I mean, at what bases does their "independent" calculation is different than yours, where does those other 8,000++ participants that they failed to count?

Ubiatar: Dear Miiike, for bounty program all partecipants are assisted in writing to: bounty@ubiatarplay.io. So please , we ask you to write to th email address mentioned, and you will be assisted in your questions . Thank you

Utente: Once again, I'm not a participant. I'm a passerby who might or might not be interested on your token, you can check your spreadsheet if you don't believe me (I heard the latest "version" is locked from public?). Up to this point I am yet to be benefitted from or having any importance of your ability to make peace with your bounty hunters. Up to this point, I am a spectator who like to see where this leads to, I am a spectator who like to learn from this issue.

If I'm going to buy your token and keep it for a long time, then it is a common belief that I better study how prospective your token is, and how possible is it to grow.

So far, I didn't see how your project is good, as your apk rating on google play is very bad, the reviews are filled with angered protests, and there are a little commotion on eidoo channel (as they used to facilitate you) that your project is scamming. Which leads me to this point.

I can conclude that the bad images and ratings are due to the angered bounty participants that is caused by a break on your initial agreement of payment, which leads me to ask for clarifications. The first thing I'm curious about is the truth behind the self-acclaimed 12,000 participants, as the number is rather large.

You see, if your statement that there are 12,000 participants (and presumably more than half of them are angered due to this broken agreement) this can be a very serious problem as they can stir a huge thing and erect a rather significant perspective toward your project (of course, they can as well as benefiting the project if they're happy, but I failed to see how they will be happy if their wish is not fulfilled).

Hence, the initial question, is it true or is it not true that you hosts 12,000 participants? As I am failed to see how can it be beneficial to buy and hold a token and hoping for its price to grow while you're against 12,000 angered people who come with their own influences.

If you're still failed to see how important this issue for me and other investors, kindly perceive it this way:

You might think that the needs of those bounty hunters participation ended as your ICO period closed, hence you can ignore them or giving a half-hearted response or the least bit of your attention, but their influence is actually not ended simply as you said (and when you said) it did. Mostly, they are already there before your project even started, they've establish themselves before you can even establish yours. They have medias and channels, they have reputations and followers, they have crowds. They have control on how people perceive you. I believe you are not too naive to think that none of the investors that participate on your ICO were not coming from their reference? That those investors come from your team's own effort? And they're very loyal to you because they like your project more than they love their influencer?

You might think that these bounty hunters can't affect much, they can't raise significant voices on real world or (probably) lawsuit as it is costly. But, it seems to me, you failed to see that you, I, and all of them are living on virtual world, on social and electronic media. And as you can see yourself, they've made quite a voice that causes your apk to fall.

If this continues without any solution, I can not see why they would mind to take steps that is exactly against their previous step of supporting you. I can't see why they would not post on bitcointalk and other forums, or on this channel, or publishing a new YouTube videos, or writing a new blog pages, about how bad your project is and how people should avoid you. Which ultimately, broke your project beyond repair as there were no people interested on buying a token that is reviewed as extremely bad and scamming.

I don't think I have to stress on how if your claim of 12,000 is true, then the problem will become more serious. 2,000 angered mass, with assumption that at least 100 of them are media influencer, is bad.

12,000?

Well, I am actually find it harder to think why this exact issue will not be a point to be considered by anyone that's already have or will buy your token. I failed to see why we should hold a token and think there will be future for its price if there are thousands of people that hold grudge and ready to dump whenever they can, or do any length to express their annoyance.

So, kindly help me, does the 12,000 bounty participants (again, presumably angry) is exaggerated or is it real number?

Ubiatar: Dear Miiike, thank you for your message, but as I already told you, this is not a chat for bounty discussion or for talking about bounty program. This is the 2nd warning .
- you said you are interested in UbiatarPlay App and project and you are welcome in asking about it. The bounty program is not a part of the app and if you didn' t take part of it, this for you shouldn' t be relevant , if you really are interested in UbiatarPlay app and all the benefit and amazing service can give you.
- As already written you, you can send an email to: bounty@ubiatarplay.io with your request and you will be assisted, otherwise this is not the right chanel.
For privacy reasons we can not publish any data and each position will be managed separately.
Thank you

In tutto ciò, aggiungo che pure io ho chiesto informazioni su quando finiranno di contare questi bounty dato che oramai sono mesi che stanno facendo i calcoli, e mi hanno detto che se vado avanti a essere maleducato e a dire parolacce mi banneranno. Ho chiesto di indicarmi esattamente dove e quando sarei stato maleducato e avrei scritto parolacce e hanno risposto con un "non è questa la chat adatta per il bounty".
Ditemi voi cosa dobbiamo pensare, e loro sono li che si lamentano che nessuno parla dell'app Roll Eyes

Mi sa che sono stati molto eloquenti già cosi .. mannaggia