Quote from: Jamesco on January 08, 2014, 09:06:57 AM

When a child throws a turd at a parent is it really the best way to deal with it to throw the turd back at a kid? At the end of the day I was just pointing out that the founding community members of eMunie shouldn't turn into two kids throwing turds at other kids. There are claims and there will always be claims that don't add up and this arises because eMunie is a closed system. The public has no access to any information other than snippets on the forum.

I think you make some valuable points here. This forum is a public place after all, and we should all try and act respectfully towards other people, and other projects. But I think this situation is not comparable to a child/parent relationship. The OP is trying to do something much more sinister and calculated than anything a child would do to their own parent.

The OP has some form here, and his agenda is more akin to a sleazy tabloid journalist trying to smear an enemy. He's going for some slanderous payback here, and while my reference to 'turd throwing' may have been vulgar, my intent was to portray the OPs actions as an extreme and over-the-top exercise in 'mud slinging'. Here is the slander:

Quote from: soopy452000 on January 07, 2014, 04:27:17 AM

PS: Looks like eMunie is a scam too and here why it looks like courtesy of member who requested to be anonymous and from his own words (Thank you very much mate!)

First

Daniel (Fuserleer) was a member of the Blackhat forum, a known scammer website.
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/224492-fuserleer.html

Second

Daniel claims to have raised over 600 BTC from beta testers alone. Yet eMunie's threads on Bitcointalk are small, only a small handful of testers post and the download page barely has any downloads.

http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/files/category/1-emunie-releases/
http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/1094-emunie-pre-launch-sale-dutch-auction/

Daniel restricted the beta testers to $8K USD investment each. How is this possible for such few beta testers to raise that much? Why did so many decide to go in? Where are these beta testers? Because they don't seem to be posting or downloading the client very much (if I was putting in $8K of my money, I would take this more seriously).

Daniel is lying about the beta investments in order to hype up his later pre-sale IPO.

To put into perspective - Mastercoin had a very honest presale and a very publicized one and yet they only raised $450Kish. Are you telling me that a dozen active beta testers have put in $600K+ We know bullchit when we smell it.

There's a lot of proof out there that Fuserleer is a scammer and is going to launch a scam coin that will outdo Visacoin.

That term - 'mud slinging' - may have been a better choice, but the use of 'turd throwing' does indicate the degree of offence taken by those of us who have seen Fuserleer operate at close quarters. The OPs accusations are completely ridiculous, and I'm glad you can see that. Fuserleer is a first rate person, and what he is trying to do with emunie is not motivated by personal gain. He does not deserve to have this smear against him go unchallenged, and due to the ridiculous nature of the content, some in the emunie community did not feel, in the heat of the moment, that it deserved to be treated with much respect, hence the aggressive, but humorous, tone. You, on the other hand, are expressing your points very respectfully, and so we can all keep our nappies on (for the time being)

You are always welcome to come over to the emunie forum and see what goes on for yourself. eMunie is not a closed system. Have you applied to be a beta tester?