Quote from: pitiflin on August 15, 2018, 11:43:50 PM

Dude.. All these don't help to stop the bear market. This is just forcing users to adopt more into bitcoin, and these have tiny to almost no effect on the market.

If there are only a couple of dudes following these advices, then you're totally right. But the goal is - like you said - to increase usage as a currency. This gives Bitcoin more stability and viability.

Without currency usage, Bitcoin is only an asset which fluctuates purely driven by speculation. There is no scarcity because there are thousands of other coins that could be a "digital gold", too. Currency usage, as I explained in my last post, leads to a more stable market due to more buy and sell orders. You can see it that way: Every good or service offered for Bitcoin is actually a buy order. The more buy orders, the less likely is a crash.

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I swear if you talk about ETF, I'll pin you down. ETF is shit and has only the market conditions worse because people are so into it.

Here you are totally right. While the ETF is a sign for adoption as a financial instrument (which is also a legit use case) the hype surrounding it is not really justified.

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Lightning network hasn't got off to a great start, what we need is some really good news, or something that would actually inspire the community.

"News driven speculation" isn't something that gives Bitcoin stability. It's more the other way around. If we only buy when there are "good news", then we're treating Bitcoin like a stock, and not like a currency. And stocks are often very volatile, so this usage leads to deeper crashes.

Quote from: Alphian on August 16, 2018, 07:43:52 AM

Im currently interning at an ICO Consultancy and my boss offered to pay my bonus in either cash or its worth in BTCs. Ah Decisions, decisions. Maybe I'll get half and half.

Cool

Quote from: biascoin on August 16, 2018, 12:13:26 AM

So you want PROPAGANDA AND FOMO right ?

Ah, finally some harsh disagreement. Popcorn!

No, FOMO is exactly one of the signs of the current "speculation-driven usage" I would like to see replaced, at least in part, by "currency usage". If the advices ("indoctrination", as you call it) I gave were followed by more people, then we would actually see less FOMO, and less sharp price increases. We would perhaps take years to find a new ATH. But at the same time it's a sane and sustainable growth, and we likely won't see harsh crashes again.

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All you want is to indoctrinate others so your bitcoins keep going up and the bear market stops.

If you call a couple of advices in a forum "indoctrination", then yes, I like to indoctrinate Bitcoin users Wink

(And no, I'm not a big Bitcoin holder.)

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USE THEM YOURSELF, and stop telling others what to do with their "money".

I'm actually using them.

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Bitcoin is not working as a currency and it is not working as a store of value, it is hard to use and insecure for the average user.

Usability could be better, that's true. So here's a new advice I would like to add:

If you have an idea how to improve usability, then propose and discuss it! If you're a developer, try at least a proof of concept. Or simply implement it . Bitcoin is an open source project, so you can do literally what you want with the protocol!