Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2018, 06:05:09 PM

Quote from: Astargath on August 16, 2018, 05:51:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2018, 05:35:47 PM

Quote from: Astargath on August 16, 2018, 10:21:52 AM

Well I just gave you an example of what you asked for and you are still not convinced, pretty much like when notbatman asks for something, I deliver and then he says, nope, that's not enough.

''we see nature making complex life and reproduction in ways we can only dream of, because we can't do it at all.'' Nature isn't ''smarter'' than us, complexity arrives from simple rules, we know that. Just because it takes a lot of time, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Humans have been creating things that are more complex than themselves for decades now, a computer for instance. As always it depends on your definition of complexity but natural selection is pretty easy to understand, I don't know what you mean.

So what is evolution then, in your head? You don't accept evolution as:

Speciation: Gave you examples of that, you still think that's not evolution, somehow.

Beneficial mutations that can be passed through generations: You still don't think that's evolution either

Do you mind explaining to us what you think evolution is then? So we can give you an example and end this debate? Or are you going to ignore the evidence like you always do again?

I don't recall asking for any example. Are you sure I asked? Or are you just being deceptive as usual?

On dear. Nature seems to make all kinds of complex life that reproduces wildly. We can't make even one life form from scratch, and since we can't, we certainly can't make reproduction. Nature seems to have figured out the rules. But we can't seem to even learn all the rules from nature's example. And you think nature isn't smarter than we are? You contradict yourself almost 100%.

Now you ask what I think evolution is, when I have been telling you over and over? Let me say it straight out: Evolution is an imaginary process that doesn't exist and can't exist in any way we can formulate that it might exist.

If you want to know what the Theory of Evolution is, you can Google it, but it will take a lot of study of many different sites, or a lot of reading through many different books, to figure out who and what is the authority for making the gobbledygook of all that evolution info, into what should be the accepted, standard for the Theory. Have fun.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''In biology, evolution is the change in the characteristics of a species over several generations'' Do you not agree with this? You don't think species change, ever? You keep saying all my examples fit ''adaption'' better but you clearly don't understand what adaption or evolution means. Animals, people, everything adapts all the time, however after a lot of generations, adaption becomes evolution.

Some species of animals are separated for various reasons, they might take different paths for example and end up in a totally different environment, the group that separates has to adapt to the new environment, they might die or successfully adapt. If they adapt, after several generations, they are so different that they would not be able to reproduce with the other group they left, becoming a new species. That's evolution for you, if you can't understand that then you are mentally retarded.

Very simply speaking, species don't change into other species. Their changes are adaptation to climate or geographical conditions, however complex the changes might be. In humans, these adaptation changes might even be for emotional pleasure or joy.

However, two things need to be proven to make evolution having happened:
1. Species change to other species;
2. Random change, that eliminates cause and effect programming.

Even if there is a change in species, somehow, programming still makes it to be something other than what evolutionists understand it to be.

So far, evolution is a hoax, because we aren't really coming close to finding a species change or change without C&E... and we know it.

Cool

Literally an example above of ''1. Species change to other species;'' Are you autistic?