Quote from: billotronic on January 10, 2014, 01:01:21 PM

chuckles...

Now I am supposed to not call people cock suckers so I wont...

@skull88 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scam go read this. I also wont bother pointing out the irony of how many closed source technologies you are using to post your archaic responses to a internet based forum.

Looking at that link. Yes, eMunie fits the bill. Thanks.

I use opensource were possible, never said I never used anything closed source.
I may hope you aren't that stupid not to see why a decentralized cryptocurrency needs to be opensource?

Quote from: billotronic on January 10, 2014, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: skull88 on January 10, 2014, 12:37:08 PM

Quote from: Iffy on January 10, 2014, 12:23:36 PM

Quote from: skull88 on January 10, 2014, 12:18:04 PM

A presale is a presale no matter what kind of nice story the dev made up and all the talk doesn't chance the fact it is closed source.

So the ripple source gets released and within 48 hours a clone in development is announced. I wonder why eMunie is going to be closed source for a while? Huh

Does that matter?
Bitcoin is cloned, Litecoin is cloned, Ripple is cloned

What does coinmarketcap say:
1 Bitcoin
2 Ripples
3 Litecoin

I think a clone would be less damaging for eMunie than keeping it closed source.

It would matter if you just got done pouring a year of your life into creating it. You sir, must not be a programmer.

No, it wouldn't matter me a tiny bit. You think Satoshi created Bitcoin in a day? You think the folks spending years working on Debian are mad at Canonical for making Ubuntu or Canonical at the Mint devs?
Have you seen how SunnyKing takes it when his coins are used to build a new one? I'm sure he also spends some time creating his coins.

Quote from: tesslerc on January 10, 2014, 01:08:29 PM

Yes, bitcoin and litecoin were out long before the crypto scene started to rise - so there was little to no incentive at all to even create a clone.
Since the rise of crypto there is a great reason as to why to clone a coin.

As stated many times by Fuserleer, the source will be released a few months after launch. This is to ensure that eMunie does retain a proper place before people do start cloning.

Think of it like this: Bitcoin is released and then 50 other coins the day after. Why would you pick bitcoin? no reason if you ask me..

Regarding the pre-sale, you can keep on ranting that pre-sale is pre-sale and what ever you want.
Every coin holds bounties, every coin needs a strong dev team. I don't believe the dev teams (on any coin) need to work for free, since they are giving service to all of us.

The pre-sale is just that, this is money that goes into the foundation, the foundation has many roles some of them to promote the coin via bounties on projects people do or commercials.
Besides that also to pay the active developers for their hard work. And in the case of eMu also retains part of the pre-sale to cushion the price-drops should they arise.

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Just reading on Bitcointalk won't give you enough information in my opinion. You should go over to the official eMu forums, you should ask to join the beta testers on the official thread - and then you might get a glimpse of what eMu is really about.

Because people will not choose a mere copy over the original, why choose the copy with a crappy dev if you can use the original with a good dev team behind it?
When Litecoin came out, we already had many alts like ixcoin, i0coin, Tenebrix, Solidcoin, Geist Geld and many followed. And even with 50 new copy-paste coinreleases a day like we are seeing now, an innovating coin with a good developer behind it will stand out an will be used. It's a crappy excuse not to release the sources from the beginning imo, the result is people can't review it and it won't attract devs to help improve it.

How do you expect people to trust the software if nobody can review it? People pay for these coins, it holds value, and we got to trust one person? One guy that controls it? What happens if Fuseleer gets hit by a bus? Who will continue his work? Nobody, because nobody has the source.

Every other successful coin did this without a presale, and cushion the price-drops? At least they're honest about price manipulation. Cheesy

But you're right when you say a dev can be paid, not every dev needs to be like Sunny who even rejects donations. But it would have been a better practice to just ask for donations, because that presale essentially needs a premine. And every premine is used as an excuse for all the things you've mentioned, if that would be something smart to do, we would now use Tenebrix instead of Litecoin. And how much does Fuseleer get? Actually we can't know, he can give himself as much coins as he wants, nobody can check it.

I'm not only reading on Bitcointalk, like I already mentioned.

Quote from: Arros on January 10, 2014, 02:38:55 PM

Some of the emunie supporter accounts seem pretty fresh. Did they join the emunie project before having an account here or do they find it embarrassing to shill with their main account but are under peer pressure to do it? Wink

And it's weird to see them only talking about eMunie on a Bitcoin forum, they don't seems very interested in Bitcoin or another alt except when emunie pops up in a topic. Cheesy