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Quote from: Lethn on January 10, 2014, 11:20:17 AM

Oh well, I'm talking about getting rid of all taxes Tongue

What system do you propose for paying for schools, roads, hospitals, emergency services etc?

People can pay the service provider/producer. Same way you pay for food, clothing, housing, etc. It's called trade.

And what happens if you can't afford any of these things? You grow up without an education, are homeless and starving and left without any prospects or future, and eventually you'll die when you have a minor injury that's left untreated.

How do you pay the police? They come investigate a crime then bill you for it?

I don't know, I guess entrepreneurs will solve these problems. Are you suggesting that institutionalised violence is the only way? We can't help the poor without theft?

No, I'm not suggesting that's the only way. What are you suggesting exactly? Why do taxes always have to be 'theft'? Why not consider them 'donations'? Don't want to 'donate'? Don't pay the taxes (or 'donations') or move to somewhere else. Nobody is forcing you. If you want to play the game then you have to play by the rules, unless you can change the rules. This just seems like people want services but are too cheap to pay for them or are operating under the assumption that you are forced to pay for them when you're not. And if you are willing to pay for these services then you just essentially want to call taxes by something else or the government by something else. And what do you suggest as an alternative plan? Tell me how you would make this work? Why do people assume that just passing on the responsibility to someone else will solve all the problems as long as these people do not call themselves politicians or the government? And do you expect these 'entrepreneurs' you speak of to work for free or do we pay them? These entrepreneurs will essentially become synonymous with government / politicians anyway, then we'll've gone full circle. What happens if you don't pay these entrepreneurs for services rendered? Will they send the bailiffs round? Will they press charges and send you to prison ('institutionalised violence'?) when you can't pay or even worse make you a debt slave? You haven't offered a viable alternative here at all.