Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 10, 2014, 04:04:12 PM

Quote from: zefyr0s on January 10, 2014, 04:02:45 PM

Sure, investors are free to request a refund and I doubt Ken will deny this (I don't really know as it hasn't happened yet.) But they also run the risk of having to get back in at the end of the line when evidence of production does actually come out.

We are at the point where a refund would be more profitable than holding onto the machine, even if they ship now.

Returns are in fiat, so no. Unless said person buys more btc and the price appreciates, then yes.

Quote from: Thumper650 on January 10, 2014, 04:13:11 PM

Quote from: zefyr0s on January 10, 2014, 04:02:45 PM

Sure, investors are free to request a refund and I doubt Ken will deny this (I don't really know as it hasn't happened yet.) But they also run the risk of having to get back in at the end of the line when evidence of production does actually come out.

With so many pre-order scams, people are beginning to confuse "investors" and "customers."
The guy pre-ordering a miner is called a customer.
The guy buying virtual shares in the Virtual Identity known as Active Mining could be euphemistically called "investor."

My mistake, I clearly meant customers.