Quote from: suchmoon on August 19, 2018, 04:07:34 PM

Nice dose of whataboutism. A staple of Soviet propaganda and stills works beautifully in Russia. So... "there is freedom of speech in Russia but it's ok if there isn't because other countries do it too" - is that your message here?

Well, to be precise, we don't have an analog of the 1st amendment.
So the laws curtailing freedom of speech can be issued, and probably will.
My point was that as long as you are a small guy, you can talk whatever you want. The same with drugs: you can use them all you want, just don't get caught.
Once you become big, you need to think about repercussions - which is true for every society.
If you are big but the bigger guy allows you or even encourages - having his own agenda - you can also talk, according to some agenda overseen from above. So I'm not pretending we have freedom of speech as constitutional freedom, I'm just saying that a lot of people don't watch
their mouths (especially in Russia, less so in stricter countries like Muslim ones). All freedom vs responsibility business is relative.

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I could question the 9/11 all I want - not sure why I would do that but there is nothing preventing me. I certainly think it's a good thing that I can oppose or support Trump as I wish.

So a lot of energy goes into internal bashing. While China makes another Great Leap Forward and so on.
You would be called a loonie once your "9/11 truthing" would get public enough. And you would be equated to "Holocaust deniers" (which is the worst known smear).

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Not sure what you mean with the Chomsky thing. Googling your quoted text didn't turn up anything. Alex Jones is not in jail and not banned. Not being able to post on some website is not repression.

I mean that there are a lot of "conspiracy theorists" first ridiculed, then quietly killed. And in the coroner's conclusion they all have "suicide". It's not from Kremlin propaganda, it's from your own.