Quote from: extee on January 12, 2014, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: cryptonoob50khs on January 12, 2014, 01:27:46 AM

lol i don't know about emunie, but biggest scam is already in action its NXT - 100% premined and owned by 71 man.
LOL, even if they "bought" them, going through risk - IT'S DOESN'T CHANGE nothing, few people have ALLl premine. they bought this? who fucks?
The result is the same - the market is totally under their control, they give to public little amount of their huge stakes - then pump and dump the price and turn back all coins at cheap price that before they "gave" to investors. LOL.

They are arrogant enough to say its not true. NXT - biggest scam ever. Even if those 71 people are invested the money and "bought" all premine from genesys block, the distribution of 100% of coins to only 71 people - automatically turns it in scam scheme. it was big mistake do distribution in this way, and now this people ahah telling us that they "giveaway" large amount - then i see when they pumped and dumped and bought back their coins for cheap price. I saw incredibly big walls that were only to make "fear" and never were for long. So that were their manipulation. 71 lucky people scam entire community. and community is blind.

Try to tell me that i lost the train,yeah big scam train. ahah, better i be honest than big asshole that scam people. and i didnt loose nothing, bought when it was cheap - already sold. don't like it. we are enough scammed in the real world with dollar, now we starting to use scam NXT as 2-nd gen. damn

most dumb post i ever read in my life.
crypto is a technology.
were facebook, google and twitter a scam? less than 5 people owned facebook shares....and look how many own them now.
and btw NXt is already right now more distributed than bitcoin was in its first 2 months.
bitcoin wasn't widely distributed in its origin....very few ppl knew of its launch......only feckless unemployed ppl playing world of warcraft or taking drugs got wind of it....early miners were few....early miners got tons ...and now noone can mine anything at all without massive investments in asic. and after 5 years less than 1000 ppl own more than 50% of total bitcoins. not widely distributed at all.
i'd rather invest directly in an IPo and pay directly the developers than pay miners which are not even needed anymore thanks to Proof of stake software. the real scam coins are the miner coins....cos miners make you believe they give a usefuil service...when infact it's now a total waste (of resources and money). and they jump in in all IPO threads calling them scam. they want to safeguard their current "non job" of miners. I have no interest in paying lazy gits miners for processing fees, mantaining system stability and mining new coins when new proof of stake software can do all that without them. investing is a more legitimate job than the current crypto mining industry.
whatever your opinion may be NXT works as intended and it is what the dev said it would be when he announced it. the NXT developer said he would deliver X ...and delivered exactly X . you may not like X.....but you have no right to call it a scam.

about the OP and eMunie .....eMunie has verified beta testers and screenshots (maybe a video would be nice seeing it in action)....i don't care in any way what furseleers past is....he can be even the biggest criminal the wolrd has ever seen ....but if he delivers a good working technology which is better than what is now available,.....that is all i care about.
do we know anything about satoshi, sunny king etc? no ...nor we care.
if he will deliver a good product.....the first thing I would do is sue you. one thing is to raise awareness or asking question.....another thing is calling emunie a scam without any real evidence as of yet.
your unconditional public beta request is unrealistic.....but i'm sure dan could invite someone of the mods of bitcointalk to beta test to verify that there's indeed a product in development. i think that would put some of the slander at rest

I'm afraid I have a very strong bias against NXT for personal reasons. I was planning to invest, thought investment deadline was January 3, had door slammed in my face when I went to go do so while someone else was allowed in. I was waiting for Mastercoin to go back up, was watching NXT thread on bitcointalk. After a pause in activity, a message was posted that they were going ahead. I double checked original post of project, saw it was ambiguous about actual end date of investment round. I posted a message asking for clarification of actual due date, got response that they'll check with project founder to find out when the deadline is, then I saw another post 8 hours later that BTC coins had been moved from address, no more investment was accepted, but they were allowing BTC that was deposited after BTC coins were moved but but before post announcing close of investment.

early termination of NXT funding round:

Quote from: Kyune on November 18, 2013, 08:19:24 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on November 18, 2013, 07:51:27 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on November 18, 2013, 06:53:05 AM

Quote from: td services on November 18, 2013, 06:51:09 AM

Can we still join in between now and January 3? I haven't really seen any clear definition of a deadline.

I'm waiting for the answer. BCNext reads this thread.

Some changes in the plan:

1. Fundraising is over. That last 1 BTC, sent after the 2nd marking transaction, will be accepted but no more deposits should be made.
2. Nxt will be launched earlier than on the 3rd of January, right after the final test.
3. New Nxt users r supposed to be attracted by selling NXT and distributing via Nxt Faucet.
4. Messaging feature will be released later to avoid situation when somebody attempts to bloat the blockchain making it too huge for newcomers.

BTW we need one more bootstrapping server, coz 2 servers is not enough.

So, if I understand this correctly:

1) the main dev (BCNext) no longer posts directly to this thread but you purport to communicate with him and speak for him about the project, something we can't confirm,
2) the deadline for contributing BTC to acquire Nxt, which was originally described as being open until the genesis block was approved by the community sometimes at least a month from now, is now suddenly declared over with no advance warning; and
3) the BTC that were already sent to acquire Nxt, which the main dev (BCNext) promised earlier in this thread not to touch until the genesis block was generated, have now been moved.

To me, this is like posted hours on business having a sale being 8-5, I see lights go off from their back office across the street at 1 PM, I call to see if they're closing early, if so, when, get voicemail and leave message, get a call later back at 2 PM saying they'll check with owner to see if closing, then get another call at 3 PM saying yes, they closed at 2:30 and the sale is over and I'm out of luck, then I find out that someone else who slid a check under the door at 2:45 after it was closed got to buy at the sale price.

I thought this was pretty crappy treatment of a potential investor. If this is how they treat people, I suspect their lack of social skills and flakey approach to business will eventually doom their project. I'm amazed at how much it has gone up in value with only the release of a buggy, partially closed source client.

The initial intro of NXT had some weird drama, there was no white paper, and very ambiguous definition of the project and the funding schedule. It doesn't seem at all professional and the initial funding round only raised 21 BTC. Any additional development will have to be volunteer or stakeholders offering bounties. So far, the development has been a one man band. There has been a lot of 3rd party development, with an ecosystem quickly evolving.

The upside of NXT is if such a crap project could have this kind of success, then a well thought out, documented, and beta tested project with equitable opportunity for all investors, developers, and other participants should be able to do even better. eMunie seems to be such a project.