Quote from: babybonobo on January 12, 2014, 06:22:37 AM

Quote from: mannybitcoins on January 12, 2014, 05:30:12 AM

You must actually be a baby bonobo to be that stupid.

No Miners = FACT
No shipped product = FACT
Lost shares = SUBJECTIVE but we cannot trade shares, and technically do not have ownership of them at this point, so leaning towards FACT
Total BS about Shares = SUBJECTIVE but we do not have a set date for when trading will be available, and Ken said on Dec 18th they would be up in a week, with was complete BS, so leaning toward FACT
lies about shipping = FACT

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Alright dumbass, look, I'm here to evaluate the truth and not talk about speculation at the moment. Let me break this down for you one more time, a little more specifically and harshly...

"No miners"-- While it is most likely true that we don't have a miner with 28nm eASIC chips, we still have BTC coming into the ACTM address. Not much else to add to this, but speculation, as this is the whole subject of the matter.
"No shipped product/Lies about shipping"-- Show me proof that he lied, show me proof that there is no shipped product. Don't try to prove the existence of a God to an Agnostic. I don't need proof of shipping because I have no idea if anything was actually shipped. Either show proof or say you don't know. This is unknown.
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Ken stated in an update that first products have been shipped. In his latest update, he has stated that they are still working out the design, so we know there's no product. This is fact, unfortunately. Things are not lining up and the burden of proof is on Ken, not us.

Quote from: kslaughter on January 09, 2014, 12:41:52 AM

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When is the first batch of chips/boards supposed to arrive at VMC Assembly?

Our engineers are still designing our board. We had to change our engineering firm, and
learn a few lessons about hiring an engineer firm. We don't have a date at this time.