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I think your view on moderators and how they effect coinmarketcap is pretty irrational,
to the point of coming across as a bit insane.

Attacking highly respected community members like Tao who has been with Dash from the start, unlike you who has joined Dash just recentely (last year), is also not helping your reputation on this forum.

Stop blaming the fall of the Dash price on just one person, stop overly focussing on coinmarketcap ranks and maybe just maybe you can regain some of the respect you lost with your earlier posts.

I don't blame this on one person, but it seems evident to me that there is an inner group of MNOs who control enough votes to swing most proposals one way or another, and they use TaoOfSatoshi and the other paid moderators as well as Joel Valenzuela to do their bidding. You can always guess what's going on by what these types of people accuse you of doing. it's projection. They want to control the narrative. That's fine, I guess, but they are using our funds to do it. Discord, Dash Force, these are treasury feeders. Then they use the influence of the media they control to push risky, wasteful proposals which cost Dash money.

If the investment community thought these projects were likely to generate positive returns, I suspect Dash would be trading higher and/or have a higher market rank. This is affecting the trading value of Dash and the net worth of all hodlers.

Tao isn't highly respected by everybody in the community, obviously. I wouldn't care about him at all, but he's getting in the way of some badly needed reforms.

"I think you have set Dash back years and are responsible personally for the loss of millions in market cap. If Dash succeeds, it will be in spite of, not because in any way of your participation. You are a blight on Dash, the cryptosphere, and humanity. You will go down in the record books as the most effeminate, dim-witted forum thug in the history of ever."

Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg44639972#msg44639972

These are your words about Tao .. you are only now expanding it from blaming just Tao to blaming "Tao and his henchmen".
It really is a disturbing post to read.
And yes, Tao really is that respected. It is rather obvious you dont know anything about him, since you are this new to the community.

And it's rather obvious to me that he is a polarizing figure, judging by the many public and private accolades I have received for dressing him down. Look, This is exactly what certain obstructionists are wanting: they want me and other reformers to get bogged down in arguments over personality, tactics, special interest groups, etc. I don't care about Tao and the other thugs except that they are preventing us from meaningfully addressing real problems. If you think I am dealing with this obstruction unconstructively, that is your right. You have made your opinion known. Thank you for that. How are we going to get enough people to buy dash or more dash so that we can function and grow? What are we going to do about the loss of market cap and market rank? Nothing? Wait out the bear market? What if that is not enough?

As of this writing, we have dropped to #15 in CMC market rank, behind Etherium Classic, Tron, Monero, and Tezos. I believe this is PRIMARILY due to having an unsustainable funding model. Censorship is only relevant to the degree it is preventing us from fixing it.

Half of what you mention here I agree with...the rest, not so much. Market cap is a complete RUBBISH marker of any kind. PERIOD. Several of the assets in this supposed matrix of success are out right scam ICO coins. Why are we even talking about CMC?!? Its absurd to use a "ranking" when the majority of the coins on this list are plain out right shit...and even some of the top coins that do have something are so manipulated that its beyond the pale.

Frankly...if someone is using the CMC ranking as some kind of matrix to value their assest...they should just as well give me their money and I'll blow it for them.

I know of a least several coins that aren't even in the top 50 that have almost as much development if not more then the current list of the top 10 on CMC.

You indicated you wanted a constructive dialogue. I'm listening. If you are trying to say that Dash is a great technology worth investing in, then obviously I agree or I wouldn't be an MNO. In order to facilitate change, it seems to me we need to convince other stakeholders that change is needed. What metrics would you use? I will piss on a spark plug if it works.

I fundamentally believe that there is always many ways we could and should improve things. First...there needs to be a place where this discussion can happen in a open, honest and respectful way. Most of these types of discussions begin with good intentions but digress into bickering and in fighting. Thus probably why autocracies end up happening.

Once a place that is created to have this discussion ...we can start lying down the frame work for organizing what is trying to be accomplished. And yes...there will always need to be moderation of said place. Unfortunately...nothing in human evolution shows me any confidence in our ability as a species to always work towards a common goal.