Quote from: cryptoronald on August 30, 2018, 12:44:08 PM

Quote from: MrBitcoinP on August 30, 2018, 11:13:12 AM

Long term lurker here but feeling the need to chime in as this thread seems to be getting out of hand.

I, like many others, am a bag holder of Linx. However i remain positive that linx will succeed where many have already failed. Why? I like the way they work, it's a refreshing change to see a team not focus on hype and the price of their cryptocurrency and instead focus on development. They are also very switched on to the market and clearly know what they are doing, imo. The hype will come no doubt about that, but not before a working product. It's unfortunate we've entered a bearmarket and the price has plummeted, but so has every other crypto, this is what happens, deal with it rather than blame.

It is quite interesting to note here the claim that the team is focusing on development when there is essentially no auditable progress apart from a few never ending wallet tests/updates on github. Where is the progress on LinxPay? Where is the LinxPay wordpress plugin? What about the Linx flagship platform? Do you know anything about it at all? What qualities will it have? The project has been in development for over a year and through that entire time there has been nothing truly fundamental in its development. A new/updated wallet here, a halving of miner rewards there. Ask yourself what exactly do you know about the development, can you explain how it will work or what functions it will have? If not then obviously something is wrong.

Also there seems to be confusion between hype and communication/transparency. Engaging with your project followers is not hyping and takes 5 minutes of your time. Claiming that the "unkown" devs work 24-7 is stretching it and has been repeated over and over again to lure investors to buy "cheap".[/font]

Sure, they have made mistakes with regards to breaking promises with roadmaps and key dates, but this is rife throughout the crypto industry, and tbh i understand their underlying reasons - linx entered the market at a bad time, we'd already entered bear season before anything they were working on was close to being ready. Makes far more sense to postpone roll out and instead utilize the time to polish the product to being the best it can be for the next bull. Apart from short term temporary pumps nothing goes up in a bear market, so why waste the opportunity? Just to pump our bags? They wont, we aren't their primary focus, you should all know that.

Correction here, firstly there is no roadmap. Secondly in terms of key dates, we were told "LinX retail partner has chosen the date for LinxPay integration". This was delayed and a new date was set. On the announcement day, Linx informed us that their partner could not implement Linx at this time (there was no future date provided). Amusingly enough, this sort of information must have been known beforehand considering the partners are in close communication. Should there not have been communication here that there are issues arising rather than claiming that nothing was hampering the progress with their partner launch?

Another issue regarding dates: Here is an update for 12/12/17

"The LinxPay system has been fully tested and works like a dream" --> So where is it? Some more info?
"The flagship linx platform will be beta testing throughout late Jan / early Feb. We will be contacting some of you so you can give this a spin for us before we release it into the wild" --> who got access to test it?
"Linx App development will begin in the new year for mobile devices (iOS and Android)" --> have they started?
"The first wave of promotional items are being designed and will be avaliable to coincide with the first round of press" --> Never heard anything

What surprises me is there is nothing released at all. What is the goal of development exactly? Is it to jump from one thing to another or should one finish 1 item first then move on. This is why roadmaps exist, to show progress. Claiming full focus on development with no actual visible progress is wrong.

I see a lot of you guys shout that linx is a scam etc, this is unfair and untrue. A scam is generally known as a way to leach money out of one party to another without a return on what is promised. DYOR i see a lot of you shout too, well i have done, a lot more than you guys it seems, you clearly haven't done any and have instead made poor assumptions.
Having scoured the linx blockchain i see no real evidence of Linx or Dantain making money, off any of their announcements or in general. The only coins from their premine that have been transferred have been to their contracted developer, mammix, he sells some now and again, but that's to be expected as he has bills to pay. At a rough guess, the team still own upwards of 800k, of their currency. How many of you DYOR guys know that? Not a single one of you i bet.

Again, my point on why there should be a transparent counter on the website regarding premine that shows the current premine left and the spending. This was actually suggested by the devs themselves in the main announcement. Yet it has not been done even though it was mentioned.

And saying they are behind soundcoin / beatcoin? Seriously?! Are you guys idiots or intellectually challenged in some way? Maybe dropped on your head when you were a baby?
These guys are clearly not the same people, it couldn't be any plainer to see. Without going into too much detail of how obvious this is, look at the writing style, how articulate they are (not not) with their words, sound is probably beat, but linx too? absolutely not.

Fact here is no one knows who they are, they could be anyone. That is the problem with unknown devs, although one has to speculate that 2 failed projects with similarities does raise concerns

The only thing that displeases me with regards to linx is the fact they've decided not to communicate with the community again, in a way it's understandable due to the clowns shouting at them for not pumping their bags, acting like the team owes them something. You guys are speculators, not investors, learn the difference, they owe you nothing! All any of us are trying to do is piggyback off their success.
However, i transgress, Linx team shouldn't tarnish the whole community with the same brush, there is still a lot of support and good guys lurking in the background, its just a shame a few have ruined it for the many.

Their success is dependent upon the community. The Miners dont mine for free. Miners can only sell if there is someone to buy it. Their entire ecosystem depends on the community. It would have been beneficial for Linx team to keep this project closed as they claimed, but wait, then were would they get the funds to proceed with the project? But hold on, its not an ICO.. But they still need funds... If they expect to have a premine then they should be prepared to answer the community. The premine is just another form of an ICO. It is worthless without the investors/purchasers.

Some of ronald/alpys points have some validity, however, apart from the dig about coding skills which is pure assumption, they've all been answered by the team and we've been told multiple times how they work. If none of you liked that you shouldn't have held on to your bag, moaning about it after the fact just makes you look silly.

I must have been sleeping, I would love for you to explain to me the following:

How does LinxPay work?
What qualities and capabilities does LinxPay have? (for example compared to spicepay)
What are the qualities and capabilities of the flagship Linx Platform?
What functions can it undertake?
How does it compare/differ to current and upcoming rival platforms/projects in the market?

Tl;dr - the project isn't dead, if you actually DYOR like some of you continually bleat about doing but actually do very little you'd see that, and it's not a scam.

I'm not panicking btw, favorite project and i wish the team the very best in these troubled times.

Over and out.

The telegram channel enjoys painting me as the enemy here, yet the simple fact is to just look at the questions/points DYOR. As MrBitcoin has said, there are valid points and concerns, that is fact. For the record, I've been with linx since the beginning as well. It is a shame the telegram channel is biased and does not allow addressing concerns or discussing these issues, you can easily see the neurotic behavior from some of the telegram users coming here to flame and swear vs calm discussions.

I'm not going to get in to a debate here Alpy, you've been around long enough to know the score. From the beginning they've always said they aren't going to hype, be transparent etc yet here we are a year on and i'm still seeing people complaining about lack of transparency. What more can they do? They've told us until they're blue in the face how it was going to be. You know this all too well having been around as long as you have, yet you seem to think they'll change their tune. They won't, it's just something we have to accept, whether we like it or not. Lets face it, you've never been a fan of their style of keeping secrets, truth is this was never the project for you and you shouldn't have kept holding as long as you did when you had such reservations.

I can also understand your saltiness, you had over £200k in Jan, you held on expecting more the Q1 roadmap (there was one) to be stuck to, as did we all, the market sentiment changed and the roadmap went out the window, as did your large stack of dosh, luckily for you you got out when you did, but it must still leave a bitter taste in your mouth of what could have been. Market sentiment is not the fault of the linx team however, and they've changed their plan due to it because that's the sensible thing to do. They don't blame the market sentiment directly for the delays, although you'd be foolish to not realise this is the underlying reason for everything. It's funny how many other crypto projects have done the same thing, ICOs with massive stacks of $ are no further down the line a year or so on either, i think most crypto enthusiasts are guilty of expecting too much too soon, things take a lot longer than we realise.

With all that said, it doesn't mean i'm ok with the secrecy, lack of transparency and infrequent communication, i just accept it because we've been told this is how they want to play it and it's also how its always been, blind faith? Maybe to some. High risk / high reward.

I agree about the community, they need to ignore the salt and engage more.

Lastly, you seem to be under the impression the telegram group is bashing you, this is not the case, there is barely any activity in there and when there is, its not about Ronald. I personally think its a shame you've been kicked out, but you are pretty negative dude, you have to appreciate that. Times are tough at the moment for everyone and we have to stick together, talking about reservations is one thing but calling projects an outright scam etc with only assumptions is another.