Quote from: 0ethereum0 on August 31, 2018, 12:03:59 PM

Hello
I ordered a z9 mini with bitmain and this is my experienced.

1. Who wants to undertake action to the Bitmain. They are one big scam company.
2. You need to wait way to long.
3. They dont tell you need to pay import costs. what is probably about 200 dollar.
4. You get probably a used miner.
5. You need to verify your id ( and they will sell it to anyone who pay them)

We must undertake action to this one big scam company.

We need to warn the people that they dont order to Bitmain because you get scammed

Quote from: 0ethereum0 on August 31, 2018, 12:03:59 PM

1. Who wants to undertake action to the Bitmain. They are one big scam company.

You have not much chance to undertake any action...

Quote from: 0ethereum0 on August 31, 2018, 12:03:59 PM

-I ordered a z9 mini with bitmain and this is my experienced.
2. You need to wait way to long.

-Just like with any other company , its can be asic/gpu/fpga manufacturer
So if you buying the new nVidia 2080 series cards, how long you have to wait Huh

Quote from: 0ethereum0 on August 31, 2018, 12:03:59 PM

3. They dont tell you need to pay import costs. what is probably about 200 dollar.

-That's not they responsibility to know your country custom tariffs, you the one who should, actually MUST to know all this before buying anything from another country!
Just in case i linked you some information from Bitmain site about custom/import fees

HERE

Quote from: 0ethereum0 on August 31, 2018, 12:03:59 PM

4. You get probably a used miner.

-The only things you are right about

but there is a lot of talk about this on different forums, included here on bitcointalk

Before you buying anything you MUST to do your on research

Quote from: 0ethereum0 on August 31, 2018, 12:03:59 PM

5. You need to verify your id ( and they will sell it to anyone who pay them)

-So...what is the problem with that Huh

Just like you have to do that now on almost any Crypto/Fiat trading platform

Your biggest problem is you really never done any research before your purchase, and now coming here and crying.
Let me tell you one more thing

you not going to make that much coins what any calculators told you, you will

Also HERE is some useful information for you Wink

Quote from: xxcsu on September 26, 2017, 04:36:37 PM

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY NEWBIES KEEP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION " ITS TO LATE TO START MINING , IT IS STILL PROFITABLE ? WHY MY EARNING IS LESS THAN ALL THOSE ONLINE CALCULATORS TELLING ME? WHAT IS THE BEST COIN TO MINE ? WHAT IS THE MOST PROFITABLE COIN TO MINE"

No one can tell you !
Always going to be a 2 group of ppl who telling you it's ok go for it , or dont bc you just wasting ur money and time !
You have to make a decision for yourself !
Do your own research !
No one can tell you for sure what's going to happen with cryptocurrency !
No one can tell you it's going to be profitable for you or not !
No one can tell you how much profit you going to be able to make ! ( if you can make any at all )
No one can tell you the ROI ( return of investment) time !
No one can tell you what is the best coin to mine !
No one can tell you what is the most profitable coin to mine! Coins profitability always changing, what is best to mine today, maybe going to be the worst to mine tomorrow !
None of those calculators you are seeing on the web can tell you what's coming tomorrow , months later or 6 months later !
Those calculators telling you about today , at that moment when you typing in your information !
None of those online calculators calculating pool luck !
None of those online calculators calculating your stale/rejected or invalid shares !
None of those online calculators able to predict difficulty growth !
None of those online calculators can predict what would be the coin/$ exchanges rates a minutes later, a hour later, tomorrow, next week, months later, 6 months later or a year later !
It's little bit of gambling , you must to decide you want to play on the lottery or not Grin

YES some of us got lucky , made some money with mining
YES some of us got unlucky , lost some money , bc when price started to fall , sold they coins , miners...

! INVEST ONLY WHAT YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO LOSE !
! INVEST WITH THE UNDERSTANDING , THAT YOU COULD LOSE EVERYTHING !