Quote from: avikz on September 03, 2018, 09:01:02 AM

Quote from: byteball on September 01, 2018, 09:46:38 AM

I don't mean wind turbines, they are too costly to play a major factor.
I also don't mean chemical solar panels, for the same reason: amortization costs.

The reason for high costs is due to the less production and demand. Also to a certain point, government policies. One can't install a wind turbine or solar panel anywhere they want. It needs special permits and land to install them. But once the production of such technologies increase, the cost will come down automatically! As of now, these two are the best resources for the alternative energy!

I personally more believe in parabolic mirrors gathering sunlight in the desert and heating liquid sodium as carrier. They can store day's energy by pumping compressed air into ground cavities, or by moving amounts of water to create potential energy for the night. These fields of mirrors are gated and fenced enterprises which can be decentralized to an extent, but they need to be protected by a strong mafia. Question is, how decentralised mafia is possible.

Quote from: avikz on September 03, 2018, 09:01:02 AM

Quote from: byteball on September 01, 2018, 09:46:38 AM

It seems that today's Central Banking is pinned on the idea of centralized control of resources.
Once there is decentralized energy source anywhere, this place can begin to print it's own money backed
by this additional energy, unaccounted so far.
And the only way to finance such developments seems to me is through altcoins.
Please share your thoughts.

Again government will interfere with that. Lets assume, today you have few hectors of land and suddenly you discover petroleum from that land. Government will come and buy that land from you to extract that resource. In majority of the countries, individuals can't own such a piece of land where natural resources are found. They will have to sell it off to the respective government as per the market price! So how do you think decentralized resource centers will exist??

Yes, the point of not admitting any kind of decentralized supplies is: if the community misbehaves in the modern world, you can start by:
1) switching their internet off (not possible after Elon Musk launches his);
2) switching their electricity off, and usually their water supply also depends on electricity;
3) switching their food off (supermarkets depend both on electricity and internet);
4) switching off natural gas pipelines used for heating or for generating electricity in small amounts locally;
5) switching their petrol stations and thus their automobiles/tractors/armed vehicles off.
E.g. look what happened once inhabitants of Crimea decided to leave Ukrainian Confederation (or rather Crimea was brutally annexed and occupied by hostile government, supported by tiny minority of traitorous population, depending on which propaganda you prefer): they had blackouts, water shortages and many threats of those for a few years.

But I meant, what if 1) supplies are really, really small scaled? Not visible from satellites, not easily detectable by large government sensors, and not easy to attack/seize?
Or what if 2) owners of supplies have "roof": lobbyists, lawyers, politicians at the top, all financed through crypto? however 2) is a distant prospect, I admit.