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Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

It was a flaw of the cloud services that was immediately identified by the general members and made visible to the dev team. An immediate update to the algo could have easily prevented the severe dump but they waited for months till the coin fell from a stable 1000 sat to lower 200 sat before implementing any change. To make matters worse, this wasn't a rewrite that needed several months to be implement rather its a week of work with a busy schedule, so it puzzles the shit out of me on why they waited to implement that change.

Well that's not really how a cryptocoin should work. If somebody find a way to get many hashes (like using Amazon Servers or another cloud service) he can use that. What if i did rent servers for 10k euro's a month, i invest a lot in the coin by mining. I would be pissed of if they block my transactions. It would be funny if people call my investment a botnet without any prove. Renting cloud servers is not a botnet. However, this cloud servers has a much smaller part in the mining system now. So on that way the aro team did there thing.

The fork what Arionum made was not a small one, the total system has changes from a 1 block mining system to a ''3'' block mining system, all together on the same blockchain. This coin started to be a CPU only coin, but if people are using Cloud Services to get a lot CPU power, many coins will be go to this whale(s). That was the reason why they should fix this. However, Arionum has proved themself to do everything good (as far as human people can do) in 1 time. Like this totally new mining system (1 cpu block, 1 gpu block) is a totaly new way of mining and totally regarding the ALGO what Arionum is using.

This shows also the big opportunities what Arionum (and the team behind it) have. They are making major steps, and yes i also told them to place that steps on this forum. This because many positive things are going on but the people on bitcointalk dont know about it. I never saw a strong community like this before on a cryptocoin. On discord everybody is helping when somebody has an issue or want to improve there mining speed. This algo is ''new'' for everybody and everybody is ready to help. Everybody can take part if it, everybody can ask and give help if needed Cheesy

Everybody can make suggestions to the dev team to make more options reality.
When i asked cuby (she is the woman behind the Arionum mobile app, cross platform wallet and the webwallet) to add some options, she add it directly (ofcourse it should have positive effects). In 3 hours i had an mobile wallet update what have positive inpacts to the mining system form the mobile wallet (like the screensaver to prevend burn-in on displays). In the past i tried to help with Ethereum and some other coins, 99% from the time you wont get any answer or they wont do nothing about your message. So yes it's sad when this aro team is doing so much, people still try to burn it down.

And ofcourse, i also started an discussion about this cloud service part with the Aro dev, i also asked why he just dont simply ban this Zean (this zean, i dont know if this a bad person.. His dumps are totally NOT big, in fact, he made also donations to the Aro fund!) and the answer was: we dont gonne regulate the coin and the price. This Zean (nobody know if he used scam accounts on Amazon/cloud) can be a fair person what have big trusts in Arionum, maybe that's why he invested to much in this coin.
After my conversation with the ARODEV i could say one thing: i agree with arodev.

If people have questions, ask them on a normall way and everybody get there answer on a normall way Cheesy

Lets being nice to each other and help eachother when needed (i think this is the strongest part from Arionum, inclusive the good dev team behind it what make many coin options reall what no other coin can ever have).

Your angle is of no value, cos they ended up switching the algo, thus proving they knew and realized that it was been exploited from the beginning when the members brought it to their attention. If the dev team had personal finances invested into the coin like some of us and it wasnt all gain for them, then they wouldn't have waited months to update that algo. They wouldn't have sat around and comfortably watch the coin crash from a stable 1000 sat to 200 sat due to the action of one or few individuals. I will reiterate that the work done was a week job on a busy schedule. I have a sister that does this for a living and few friends that can attest to that.

I have no issue with cuby, I think she is great but I don't believe in sugarcoating my opinion to stay positive thru some bullshit. And what is a normal way to ask a question? All the points i stated that resulted in a ban were clearly facts. I dropped a few fbomb towards slptome a marketing (but not really marketing) guy who replied to my ist statement about issue's related to the coin still in maintenance two months post its due date by stating that "i sound like a broken record"

Respect is earned not given cos you have some bullshit admin tag associated with your name. I won't be surprised if i personally invested/ promoted the coin more than the aforementioned guy with the marketing tag, whose only marketing tactic is to get on the board and talk about moon every once in awhile. So yeah fuck him.

Like I already stated there are more pressing issues that had yet to be dealt with or dealt with in extreme tardy fashion that speaks on professionalism rather than worrying about an f bomb on a forum.

As for the dumper, the coin has stayed in maintenance post the algo update, so we don't know if his action will be curtailed. One thing i know is that he was given the time to accumulate a hefty amount of coin and shoot to the top of the leader board even with the extensive dumping. So, he can choose to create masternodes and make a killing of that end while still killing the cpu side. So if anything he is only limited on the gpu side, which is one part of a three sided equation.

Where do you see that 200 sats? U keep talking about 1000-> 200 sats drop. I can not find that price. And if we go further about this price...
The lowest ARO price is still higher then the big BTC dump. Many coins (like 99% from all coins) dropped harder then ARO. The ARO price is around the 400 sats so please stop using the number 200 oké?

The community is now waiting for Mercatox to open the doors (so withdraw/deposit) and watch what the price will do. This is why people are not ''pumping'', they are waiting. They can pump, because u can trade ARO/BTC. But you dont know what happen after thedoors go open. Nobody want to ''pump'' the price to 1k or 2k sats if you dont know what will happen when the doors open. Logical or logical? This is NOT because people are losing the trust (in fact, the community trust is getting more and more).

There are big BTC members involved in ARO, you dont need to worry about the 400 sats (almost the lowest price) what ARO is worth now. Yes on some other markets u see big pumps when a deposit/withdraw is closed. This price will fall to death when the wallets are open. At this point u see that the community is preparing for the doors open on mercatox.

Dude you can't find that price because you haven't followed this coin since inception, you can choose to do a little more research, or ask other members that have been around before you before jumping the gun. At least have the full history of what you defending before you spend your time shilling/posing a defense. As for 200 sat, i have stated several times lower 200sat, so must be a mistake when i stated exactly 200sat, this coin was trading around 235 sat a drop from a stable price of 1000sat (again do your research) before the fork was announced, which bumped the price to upper 300s. Post the fork, the coin has been on maintenance and no one has been able to deposit, even the main dumper who destroyed the price is unable to deposit to sell, so currently the true value of the coin is biased.

Also if you had more info about the history of the coin then you would know that aro exchange commenced post the btc drop and a baseline was achieved even post serious drop in BTC price. also you would have a clear reason/ backing support to show what destroyed the price. Just do a little more reason to help your shill

First of all: i start mining this coin after ~10 minutes they released this coin on bitcointalk, i was with 20 other people mining this coin. So let me make this clear, i am one of the oldest members from Arionum. That i didnt talked here but was just mining dont change anything. You can easy look at the block explorer when i did earn my first transaction, it was at day 1.
It's oke that u can not stop finding a negative thing. Like u can not stop talking about the aro price: 200 sats (while the price is ~400 sats), u can not stop saying that the exchange is for 2 months on maintenance mode (while its 1 month). You are changing the current facts.
Bitcoin is around the 6500 dollar, not 1000 dollar because it was 1000 dollar somewere in the past.
Like me, i saw aro around the 2000 sats also. However i dont care about the octaex price (where it was 2k+ sats).

I really dont understand want you want to say, u are throwing incorrect actual numbers. Yes u feel bad because octaex did bad things to everybody what was using that website, this was totally outside the control what ARO have. This has nothing to do with aro itself.

So when we are done with this, what is your next thing? You keep searching for things what are not actual anymore. Discussions are healthy, everybody on discord are discussion with eachother. But you are just searching for things what are not reall.

Like the coin ETN, i bought them for 1200 sats, the price from that coin is now around the 80 sats. Can happen.. Do i need to shit all over the place there now? What can they do about it? Anyway, outside all this negativity i want to welcome you to the cryptoworld.