Quote from: EvilPanda on January 17, 2014, 12:58:54 PM

Quote from: Sindelar1938 on January 16, 2014, 05:09:52 PM

Public, shared services cost money
Income tax helps fund it

Not really - income tax punishes inovative and hard-working people. It's unjust, as it takes more from the ones who earn more, so it promotes equality and people are not the same. Some are smart, some are stupid, some are lazy and some aren't. Treating all people in the same way is a communist crap.

Now let me ask you where does your VAT go if you pay it? And excise tax? Health insurance? Property tax? Customs tax? Road tax? If this is not enough to fund services?

Furthermore, we additionaly pay for most services like energy, sewage, water, security, education.

What do you mean "not really"? What he said is true. And there's an answer to your issues. Make taxes fairer. Maybe introduce a flat tax or only VAT. I don't agree with penalising the rich or punishing the poor. Everybody chips in a fair around and what they can afford and everyone benefits. Would you not mind paying taxes if you had great services and healthcare / education?