Quote from: Bazinga442 on September 13, 2018, 05:53:43 PM

Quote from: Vizefog on September 13, 2018, 04:09:40 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on September 13, 2018, 03:21:40 PM

I think they will refund the OP within a day or two maximum. This whole incident has been a massive PR disaster for changenow because they did not expect somebody would challenge them in the way the OP did by paying for adverts to explain what happened and by using the forum.

I see you are the only one capable of constructive dialogue. Well, I agree with you. But imagine that I, or someone else, will launch such a campaign against another little-known exchange, without betraying any facts other than his story. What we know:
- he makes an exchange for $ 70,000, while, as he says, without taking it seriously
- for some reason (we do not know, it's an internal algorithm), the transaction is blocked
- this person, fearing (LOL), sends the first picture (WTF?!)
- the exchange requires real documents and video communication to understand who this person is (agree that getting fake ID causes certain thoughts)
- for some reason (I do not believe in fear for my own life, it's stupid), this person refuses video communication
- He starts a campaign against the exchange, accusing ChangeNow of "fraud".

Now the question: what is fraud? Sending fake ID is not cheating? So the scammer accuses of fraud, spreading information, usually not mentioning what caused the problem - FAKE ID and his "frivolity".

Do you understand me? This is absurd, we did not see this transaction! That is, the exchange could generally deny this operation, but they recognize this, try to solve the problem, but as I see, OP wants to return the coins, remaining unknown. I think this is wrong.

Imagine, in place of ChangeNow, any known exchange in a similar situation. What could write all here on the forum, if in this situation was Binance?

And the last thing. I've seen so many times about ChangeNow that I'm ready to poke my eyes out. I admit, I do not like the methods of ni23457, and I do not understand why the majority of the participants of the forum support OP. Nobody but a few people is aware that this problem is the fault of both sides.

Let me humor you. I'll bite.

You are right about both sides being at fault. However, the fact remains that only the OP has lost something. Changenow can get away with their mistakes + $70.000. If they had handled this better it would never have come to this, which leads me and many others to think this is selective scamming.

Changenow mistakes
1) They claimed to be anonymous and unlimited, hence attracting the OPs business.
2) They never warned the OP, before depositing his coins, that the transaction had been flagged and they would require KYC. This would have prevented this mess. Unless, it is standard practice in crypto, to trap peoples coins then demand KYC. I know gambling websites love doing this.
3) Upon the OPs refusal to cooperate, they should have reported the matter to the appropriate regulatory bodies, if they suspected him of any malfeasance. Or simply returned the coins to the same address.
4) This is most important for me. How can a business that hides behind a shell company in Belize demand KYC? These cowardly fuckers deleted their information from their whitepaper. Who does that? All for $70K? If they are legitimate, they wouldn't be hiding behind Polina's skirts. Are these men you wanna entrust your coins and personal information to? These same people threatened the OP? It's all here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5007142.msg45176576#msg45176576

You keep banging on about his wallets and addresses. He is not obligated to share them with you. Imagine strangers asking to see your bank accounts or physical wallets, how will you feel? Luckily, the exchange isn't denying they received the coins, making this point irrelevant.

OPs mistake:
1) Sending that much to this little known exchange without doing his due diligence
2) Sending the 1st ID. He should have refused and stood his ground.

About his response and spreading the word about this scam. How do you expect him to deal with it? For one he is never going to send them his ID. So what do you suggest? Please don't say KYC, cos we all know that he won't. He is doing what he feels is necessary to retrieve his property. You may not like his tactics, but IMO he hasn't done anything wrong drawing attention to this issue. At the end of the day, if Changenow isn't a scam, they will be a better exchange for it.

Dear ni23457, why dont you mention again that youve sent fake ID 2 times?