Quote from: cobragt427 on January 17, 2014, 04:03:42 PM

Quote from: BitChick on January 17, 2014, 03:26:31 PM

Quote from: cobragt427 on January 17, 2014, 02:44:22 PM

Well Lloydie you are correct about most things you have said. There is nothing far fetched or sci fi about this conversation even though only 3 years ago this conversation would be conspiracy and sci fi at best, however as it is all unfolding it no longer is sci fi but reality.

meelvanchris I am very sorry to hear about you going to bible school. Bible school contradicts the bible Wink

. They carefully teach you how to misinterpret the bible. Seminary is a part of the system and I have not met a single person who has gone to seminary who knows the word of YHWH. They know a lot about twisting scripture and rewritting the bible, but that is completely against the bible. They know a lot about man made theology and philosophy that contradicts YHWH and when YHWH doesn't fit their preconceived notion of who he is they write off YHWH as contradicting himself when only it is we who contradict ourselves and HIM.

We all have a master and we all go to work for him. Both masters eagerly await our work and desire to pay our wages. One master offers us gifts beyond measure that we can never deserve and the only stipulation is receive. The other master lies offering materialism beyond measure that is limited finite and temporary in exchange for your wages eternal death.
The first master says Yahoushua is the path, the second says you can take ANY path EXCEPT Yahoushua, you chose your master and you chose your wages

I have real eyes
that realize
real lies

So you think all Bible schools are the same? I think that there are some very good ones out there. I went to a Christian college and loved my Bible teachers. They really challenged me to take off my American English speaking glasses that I wear and read the Bible for what it really says, not for what we see because of the world view we personally have. My husband even learned Biblical Greek there so he could read the Bible for what it really says and better understand what the original manuscripts were trying to tell us. So I think making blanket statements that "Bible School Contradicts the Bible" is a little extreme don't you? There are some great ones out there. Sure there are some that are not so good to but not all are the same.

But I agree that we do have to choose which master we work for. Some people think that they only serve themselves, but that is the exactly what Satan wants and in doing so are serving him, perhaps ignorantly.

By your own admission yes I say all Bible schools contradict the bible. You say that they taught you to read it for what it is. Can I ask you a few questions? Do you wear tzitzit? Do you cover your head? Do you think the torah and the "new" testament are 2 books or all the bible is one? Do you believe in Yahoushua or do you still call him the blasphemous Zeus name of Je Zues? I only ask if "school" taught you anything about these things at all or conveniently ignored it all? do you celebrate blasphemous christmas and ishtar easter? All of these are encouraged by "bible"school. I don't think it's extreme that the bible is written in ancient pictograph and paleo hebrew while the new testament is written also in either hebrew or aramaic but yet "school" taught you greek is the original text (lies) and now your husband knows the language of idolatrous polytheistic philosophers who hate YHWH and his word and seek to "rationalize" him out of existence and making doctrines of men over the word of YHWH.

The lie of getting you to learn greek the helenistic people who are responsible for destroying the Torah and YHWH's word while getting you to worship zues on the day of sun while deceiving you and hiding behind the YHWH of the bible is more than enough evidence for me to boldly say with all authority that yes ALL Bible schools contradict the bible as the rouch ha kodesh is our teacher and Yahoushua says no man is over another yet "school" has it's system of man's authority that cares about titles degrees and stature instead of truth of YHWH.
Are you starting to see any contradictions yet? Also what fruit do these schools produce. People like Meelvanchris who went there and learned from contradicting men that somehow YWHW contradicted himself? Or you and your husband who believe greek has to do with YHWH when his kadosh tongue is hebrew? aleph beyt vs alphabet.

Wow. I am not sure where to start with all of that.

In reading the Bible I have come to realize that some of the "rules" such as head coverings for women were a cultural thing. A woman without a head covering back then would be sending a message, much like a woman with fish net stockings on a street corner would be now. If I walk around Los Angeles without a head covering but I am modestly dressed no one will think I am prostituting myself based on that would they? We have to look at many things when studying the Bible, especially the culture. Also, I understand how the English language has been influenced by false religions but does that mean when I celebrate "Easter" that I am not celebrating the true meaning? Just because language has influenced our culture does not mean that I need to go around using different words. God looks at our hearts. He knows what our intentions are. His grace is certainly big enough for that!

I have learned that we can get caught up in rules and technicalities and it can become a bit legalistic. We need to focus on loving God with all our hearts and loving our neighbor as ourselves.

Having grown up in a pretty strict religious home I have learned to take Ecclesiastes 7:16 to heart, "Be not overly righteous, and do not make yourself too wise. Why should you destroy yourself?" I used to focus on the "righteous" part a little too much. Now I think about the verses of how "A wise man avoids all extremes and be all things to all men that you might win some" to give myself a better perspective on how to live.