Quote from: bitmover on September 16, 2018, 02:18:22 AM

Quote from: iasenko on September 16, 2018, 12:36:47 AM

- Is there anything the community can do to help you with the current forum situation?? /Except the reporting/

Personally, I think the current forum situation is very good.

Are you on the same board that I am? Very good in what sense? That you can get paid for shitposting or copy and pasting over your 200 accounts? If so, they yes, it's very good. Great profit. Much spam. Tell all your friends.

Quote from: bitmover on September 16, 2018, 02:18:22 AM

Bitcointalk.org is one of the most accessed websites in the world. Look here

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

It's 3300 top website in the world.

Most accessed by shitposters.

Quote from: bitmover on September 16, 2018, 02:18:22 AM

If anyone ask anything crypto related, he will be answered almost instantaneously, thanks to signature campaigns and many active members like moderators and devs.

Yeah, they'll be answered almost immediately. Often by someone who has no idea what they're talking about. Then you'll get ten pages of responses saying the same thing reworded slightly or just plain wrong. Without signatures here you would still get the answer unbiased and not done so with the motive of profit.

Quote from: bitmover on September 16, 2018, 02:18:22 AM

I think this spam asylum in economics, announcements, altcoins etc boards are not a so big problem.
If you remove spammers and spam boards, forum traffic will be much smaller.

And what about every other board? It's practically impossible to have a meaningful conversation about anything in bitcoin discussion these days. All it is is farmers and sig spammers churning out their generic one liners over account after account thread after thread.

Quote from: bitmover on September 16, 2018, 02:18:22 AM

So, I think forun is going very well. Drastic adjustments may change that.

All you care about is protecting your little cash cow, because you are clearly blind to all the bullshit that is going on which is 99% of this forum, but hey, if you can keep getting paid then it's all good in the hood and we shouldn't do anything that might jeopardise that. There doesn't need to be drastic changes like banning signatures but a compromise needs to be found because the spam and low quality content is out of hand.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 16, 2018, 05:20:24 AM

I think theymos should continue to roll things out at the pace he feels comfortable and not be pressured by community members to make changes.

Theymos barely doing anything is why the forum has become so unfit for purpose. Should we just remain silent and not say anything whilst the forum continues to circle the drain in the process? Many mods are just giving up because they know it's futile trying to do anything. If theymos doesn't have time to do certain things (which he doesn't in his own words) then start delegating the workload otherwise more and more work keeps getting pilled up on him and the rest of staff. How difficult is it to add more staff or assign some dedicated sub board mods? Takes minutes of his time and it's one less thing to worry about and the forum benefits in the process. How difficult would it be to either make more admins or give certain staff access to restore accounts? That would solve the account backlog problem very quickly. The best stuff we get is things like the merit system but it's not enough and has made some things worse. There's not enough merit sources for a start and hundreds of great posts likely go unmerited and because there's no merit requirement to become a Junior that is forcing people to farm thousands of them and they're doing so with copy and paste bots and text spinners. Because there's no quality checks or punishments for badly run ICOs they pay them continually for this abuse. You can literally get paid a lot of money to have two hundred+ accounts copy and pasting someone else's content and in some cases even garbling it up in the process so it becomes even more unreadable. That shouldn't be allowed. The culture needs to change here and theymos ignores 99% of suggestions good or bad. The best we get from him is a 'maybe' then no explanations or follow ups to any questions. People have been waiting a year to get their account back. Is that acceptable? No, it isn't. Things like removing signatures from Newbies and Juniors seemingly have the backing of the majority of the community and would put a stop to people being able to get paid for shitposts or copy and pastes straight away without them earning ten merit which is going to be very difficult for them and nigh on impossible for the worst of the worse of posters and bots. Punishing ICOs who pay for garbled spam and copy and pastes should also be implemented and the culture of spam would quickly change around here, but the best we get from theymos is still a 'maybe' then silence or no explanations for the 'no's' or 'not yets'. Meanwhile, people are getting paid by the hundreds to farm accounts and there are multiple example of this that have been spotted the past week or so and they never get looked into:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5024955.msg45430341#msg45430341
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025001.msg45434800#msg45434800

I mean, what else can we do? Just wait and hope theymos has all the fixes up his sleeve? I get he's swamped and I certainly wouldn't like to be in his position but ignoring things doesn't make them better or go away and there are quite a few things that could be done in the meantime that make the forum a much better place to be and remove the stress and workload from him and other staff members as well.