Quote from: broke_tradah on September 12, 2018, 03:42:29 PM

Quote from: TheQuin on September 12, 2018, 10:12:14 AM

are actually designed purely to maximise the referral commision by trying to roll over the same coin as many times as possible.

For once you got something correct. By doing this it allows the person TIME to decide when to get out BEFORE they LOSE EVERYTHING. That's the key point that you ALWAYS leave out because you dont WANT people getting out before they lose it all. Why would you, that would cause the casino to LOSE lol. Therefore you ALWAYS argue the point that it's the bot that is evil......... Why? Because it gives users the BEST CHANCE to get out before they lose everything and you cant have that because it's BAD FOR BUSINESS. Let us not forget that this shithouse has spent the last 3 or whatever years COMBATING BOTS because they are causing the casino revenue. They are not combatting normal users............... Why? Because humans are easily manipulated into doing things they shouldnt. Bots cannot be manipulated AT ALL and will do exactly what you tell them to do regardless of emotions (which is what casinos bank on, they bank on human emotions). Cutting out the emotions gives a bot user a significant advantage over ANY casino. I dont care if it's a dice game or poker. A bot will ALWAYS outperform a human's emotions. Bot's dont get emotional. They just get the job done.

For example, if you compare a bot's winnings vs a humans winnings in an 8hr period, you'll quickly notice a triangle pattern forms for the bot while a human's pattern looks more like a mountain range. One is predictable, the other is not because bot's dont have emotion that will change the pattern.

We can visualize this and give it an analogy. Let's say we want to go sight seeing over the city and there are 2 paths to take to reach the required height to see the city lights at night.

One is a straight slow gradual road that goes straight up, it has a nice 4 lane highway of people going up and down, there are well maintained pull outs with gorgeous views of the sunset, etc, BUT at the end is a MASSIVE cliff that drops off to city level (that is 0 for the player and they lose everything), it is marked with danger signs everywhere all the way up stating that there are no rails and that you have to view the city at great peril of your own, if you drive over the cliff or fall off, it's your fault because there were plenty of warning signs ahead of time.

The other is a windy mountain road thats full of exciting animals that could push the car off the road at any moment, there are bridges that are washed out that could cause the car to plummet to it's death, etc. It's an exciting ride, but one thats very likely to end abruptly and quickly with one's death (or more correctly, with losing all your deposits).

Which path you take will probably depend upon what type of person you are OR where you are in life. If you have a family and kids, you're probably going to opt for the safer route (the straight highway with plenty of scenic views). If you are straight out of college and have no care in the world with tons of mom's money to blow, you're probably going to take the exciting route.

Trying to steer people away from the safer route is utterly disgusting imo. If bots truly make people LOSE, you'd be all over them touting them like they were the 2nd coming of Jesus. Why? Because it would make the casino MORE money thats why. But that ISNT the case and that's why you are so against bots. Period. It's just that simple and it can be proven as such by the well documented history of wetsuit combating bots during the ENTIRE LIFETIME of the site, not just he last few months where he's been combating multi-account bots. I'm talking about when the house edge wasnt at #RETARDED level. Back when it was ZERO. He got his ass HANDED TO HIM.... Not by humans............. But by BOTS. How soon we forget that time eh? Just because the house edge changes DOES NOT CHANGE THE HOW A BOT FUNCTIONS, nor does it change it's effectiveness vs human emotions. It simply means that you cant win as much as you could before, thats all that raising the house edge did/does. It does nothing else to combat the root of the problem which is bots do not have emotions that the casino can exploit.

BTW, I'd like to point out that the current "30K Contest" has the EXACT same goal as a bot. You're trying to incentivize people to gamble over the same coin over and over and over in an attempt to make them lose more than they would normally and you're asking them to do it without any "bot use". In other words, wetsuit wants people to donate to him for free. The contest's goal is absolutely no different than a bot's goal. They both result in the exact same thing, people rolling over the same BTC over and over and over. The one KEY DIFFERENCE is that this shit contest doesnt tell you when you should probably stop. A BOT WILL. Or at least mine does anyway. Maybe other bots dont, but mine sure as fuck does and I guess you dont like that.

You are just as much of a snake oil salesman as anyone other lying mofo. The fact that you try to cover that up is utterly DISGUSTING. I make no bones about what I am here for, I tell people right up front that its RETARDED to use freebitco AT ALL. But if I cant stop them from trying, I might as well make something off them at the same time and give them tools for their troubles that will give them the best chance of not getting raped by wetsuit. The casio gives them NOTHING for their efforts. At least I give them a fighting chance by providing them an excellent tool. The built in "auto roller" thing on the site is an utter joke compared to a REAL bot. It's only purpose is to automate their losing. It has no real "stop" functionality that is effective. It actually has only 2 stop functions. My bot has no less than 10 different ways to assess when to stop. The most EFFECTIVE method that most people use is called a "Trailing Stoploss". If you're familiar with trading, you'll know that a trailing stoploss is one EFFECTIVE WAY to GUARANTEE that the current win will ALWAYS BE A WIN and it allows for that win to grow without worry of losing. Does the site have something like that? Asbol-fucking-lutely NOT. But does my bot have it? You can bet your ass it does. And that's not the only method it has to help stopping either. There are other more complex and just as effective methods as well.

So yes I CAN guarantee that it can be configured to always win once it detects you've won something of significance (of significance is determined by the user). I dont guarantee that it'll win EVERY time but it's better than what wetsuit offers thats for damn sure. And you can set the stop losses to whatever risk you want rather than having wetsuit dictate what those risks are.

I agree with you and experienced, it is well manipulated, 99% of the time it is provably fair, however there is 1% left for unexplained strange behaviours. Seeing this forum for so long and up until now i have to register an account to reply to this thread. So what I've experienced as well as other may or may not discovered:
- Just playing and win some decent amount like 10k-50k satoshi (from begining of 5k-10k satoshi).
- After a big win, there will be strange thing happen, below is common in all cases I have experienced:

1. The numbers spinning start to act, it take ages to return result with 100% a LOSE, following by series of loses that eat up the whole account balance, regardless of odds (I've done via HAND-MANUAL BETTING, low increase on lose 1.15 -> 1.20, low odds 1.75 -> 2.35 (precalculated in excel to be able to take upto 25-45 bets and manual input during the play), so don't blame me for use of auto bet and it is too fast so that the server cannot response and the bet is forfeited).
2. If you try to ping the site itself or the amazon's seed server itself at that time, the ping return is still very good (i had around 50ms during the time for both sites).
3. After this BIG loss, try to HAND-MANUAL BETTING again, every is back to normal.
4. If you did take note of the result by handwriting somewhere + look around the bet result table to compare, most of them are not there.

Sorry if I am negative but this is what I've experienced, and the siteowner / supervisor / team mebers may need to correct me or explain why did this happened?