Quote from: slaman29 on September 20, 2018, 04:49:13 AM

Quote from: Cloudbet on September 19, 2018, 11:03:39 AM

@slaman29 Thanks for stopping by! At the moment we only request KYC when certain flags have been raised. We try to avoid it wherever possible as we know anonymity is very important to some of our players, and I suspect that KYC for all new players on sign up would drive a lot of people away. It's something I'm happy to pass on as feedback to the team though, as I know the topic comes up for discussion regularly.

Thank you for your response Ronnie at least we see that you guys are being open about this, and this is exactly what I'm trying to say actually.

You are right, players like me are absolutely never going to sign up at a site that needs KYC. But this means for me, as long as there is the possibility that kyc is required, I am never playing, and I know almost 100% anyone who wouldn't sign up because of KYC at signup, would also never sign up if there would be kyc down the line.

So it is extremely important you make it clear at the site on sign up. So people don't get unfairly "trapped".

I agree. If not at sign up then KYC if required must be requested before any deposits can be made. What must be avoided is a customer having his account frozen awaiting KYC after he wins or after he deposits funds because that would be unfair.

Nobody legally requires AML/KYC for crypto gambling or crypto-related websites because there is no international consensus or single definition on what rules should apply.

For example, if you bounce a check/cheque in Dubai it leads to immediate arrest and an automatic jail sentence because it is considered a criminal offence but doing so anywhere in Europe or most countries around the world it is not even a civil offence, no way are you going to a police station for that let alone a jail. Another example, in the USA if you commit murder in various states you will get the death penalty but in other states you will never be sentenced to death. Likewise, there is no single internationally accepted and implemented cause that raises flags that force website owners to request KYC.

As long as no FIAT is involved then AML/KYC are virtually non-existent requirements.

Speaking of the USA, your website gambling website is not legal in the USA so why are you not blocking access in the way STAKE does with a js alert stating:
"Sorry, Stake isn't available in your Region. Not in a restricted region? If you're using a proxy service or VPN to access Stake, try turning it off and reload the page.?"

Most gambling sites play this KYC/AML game against their users when they want to scam