Quote from: Inaba on January 20, 2014, 01:28:39 AM

Quote from: Searing on January 20, 2014, 12:56:19 AM

Quote from: dhavin on January 20, 2014, 12:46:17 AM

Here I was about to order some stuff from them..

run away...don't buy from BFL ....it is always the customers at risk ..no refunds after 45days and they are always 4months or more late it seems
at the best imho

.the only place that offers refunds up to shipping i know about is www.kncminer.com

but then again with the way difficulty is rising their batch 3 units (knc) along with everyone else around march..
may be iffy with all the difficulty increases people expect

from cointerra ...hopefully bfl (late as usual i expect end of march) ....bitfury..hashfast etc..they all may dump the same month heh

but again KNC refunds up to shipping so a guy could buy one and then bail.... i'd use usd thou not bitcoin as most of us expect it to rise

there may be other mnfg asic companies that do refunds but most don't...at least not after 45 days ...in knc's manner ...could be wrong none come to mind

truth be told at 810 usd for btc on stamp a person should probably take those $$$ and just get btc...with the expected difficulty rises soon may be safest

my 2c worth

Searing

Of course poor little Searing doesn't mention that fact that BFL has been shipping from stock for awhile now. Order today get it in a few days kinda thing... lots of happy customers as far as that goes. But Searing wouldn't want to mention that, because it makes him look like the whiny little brat he is.

you have ample opportunity to prove me wrong...get your monarchs out by the 1st of Feb as you claim...I don't have a bullet run order but my order is near the top of the batch after...and you are saying..the bfl reps/site anyway... that an order (monarch) today will get you a product in march...so...Feb 1st should be doable unless you are telling folks ordering now a lie about March....esp with the 40,000 unit number you toss around...so yeah......get me my unit 1st week of Feb or so.....say by the 7th....that should be fair with your current representations on monarch orders...so I can get ROI and I'm cutting you slack from your announcement when you told us about them and stated a December shipping date....it is unlikely I will get them then or get ROI but if I get that I'll give you a 'wash' for last years troubles....in that at least you got on product out more or less in time......and my forced update for last years (april) order crawled to ROI...barely..ain't much but more then you got going for yourself on here now.....step up get them out the door on time!

if it drags out "again" into march as I expect..then you had no realistic expectations of getting any of the monarchs out and both your last product and this current product timelines we're at best 'wishes' on your part ...with NO RISK on BFL's part ..with your "no refund" policy....and thus you had it both ways..if by some miracle your timeline was correct so be it seems to be BFL's attitude .....if not then tough luck to the customers of both generations of asic's and it would seem to be pre-planned to be this sloppy from the get go....in that BFL is covered both ways...sloppy shipping times/results/timelines and promises we're all just 'hype" with little intention of success...

so yeah..get something out in a decent timeline and I may revise my opinion of you that ALL was rigged to BFL's favor or not you are at least TRYING to get something out the door with this lot of stuff..ie you learned something (conversations here on bitcointalk not withstanding)

but if you we're at my end of this conversation with BFL and as a customer with your "sunny disposition" I'm sure you'd be a lot more to say on all this then I ever have..and likely would be just as vocal as most on here as well...

thus the problem with you, bfl and such......it seems all rigged...your failures are carried by the customers....no internal checks/consequences...and you seem clueless to the responsibility and the repercussions of such

so prove me wrong get the dang product out.....the people that felt "forced to upgrade" to a monarch last year.....get at least ROI back so that effort on your part worked...

anyway I assume the above goal is what you want on all this.....a decent shipping time for the monarchs

I could say something more but in the spirit of fairness I'll let the results speak for themselves....

time will tell

Searing