Quote from: BADecker on September 25, 2018, 01:56:17 PM

Quote from: Moloch on September 25, 2018, 01:32:45 PM

Quote from: jabuenrostro on September 24, 2018, 11:24:43 PM

Hi, my name is Jb, and Im a Christian, as you know, the bible teaches about correctable and not correctable people, about saved people and lost boys, about children of the lord and children of the devil, in other words there are immortals and mortals, and both are evil, however immortals can change, I mean we can be less evil, unfortunately mortals cant, I mean they cant stop their rebellion...

Wait, what? The bible says no such thing... where in the bible does it say there are mortal and immortal people/souls? Where does it say anyone is not savable?

The bible says every soul can be saved... the bible says every soul is immortal (either eternity in heaven, or eternity in hell... there is no non-eternity option)

Even if it did... what makes you so certain you are one of the immortals and not mortal? Just because you think it sounds like a better choice, doesn't mean you are it

Why do you say, "we" in reference to immortals, and "they" in reference to mortals? How do you even tell the difference?

Why do I know more about what the bible says than people who believe that rubbish is true?

To answer your questions...

When Jesus died on the cross, He took the punishment for all sins... for all mistakes... to correct the whole thing. Since all sins have been paid for, there is nothing owing.

It's like a bank loan. If a person can't make payments on his bank loan, and a different person pays off the loan for him, does he still owe it? No. The loan has been paid. There is essentially no loan any longer.

When Jesus arose from the dead, He did so with a glorified body. This body can no longer die. It can walk through walls. It can appear and disappear. It can eat food. It can be disguised so two guys walking along the road won't know Jesus until Jesus reveals Himself to them in breaking bread. It can rise into the sky to be hidden by a cloud and no longer seen. In other words, it is a super body, greater than that of our superman comic book character.

Who gets a super body like Jesus? Everybody. Why? The whole penalty of sins and debts has been paid by Jesus. There is not one sin remaining. Every person gets a body that cannot die... in the resurrection. This glorious body that everybody receives will keep every soul alive, forever, because, like the body of Jesus, they can no longer die.

Now here is the stickler. Some people believe Jesus and are on His side, in His army so to speak. They will go to Heaven to receive joy through God's revelations to them. Other people don't believe Jesus, and will go to Hell where their super-body will keep them alive in torment forever. Why forever? Because the body is a gift from Jesus. He won it for them in His death on the cross. It is like His. It can no longer die.

Why won't they go to Heaven with those who are in favor of Jesus? Because they don't want to.

You can want to go to Heaven to be with Jesus. All you have to do is change your mind about Him, and repent of your sins... especially the sin of unbelief. Your choice.

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''When Jesus died on the cross, He took the punishment for all sins... for all mistakes... to correct the whole thing. Since all sins have been paid for, there is nothing owing.'' First of all, isn't Jesus, God? And why would he ''sacrifice'' himself for us and can you even call it a sacrifice if he revived later on? Why does God need anyone to sacrifice himself to save us and why would that save us?

''If a person can't make payments on his bank loan, and a different person pays off the loan for him, does he still owe it? No'' Nice analogy buddy, are we supposed to kill ourselves for god at all times and that's why jesus sacrificed himself or how does it work.

Wouldn't an all knowing god already know all this, why allow it in the first place if the whole thing is going to be a mess and he will kill everyone with the flood? If he was going to kill everyone why bother creating humans before that?