Conflict of interest: I am the translator for the Securix Bounty campaign.
However, those who read me here know that I do not hesitate to denounce scams if I find them (for the anecdote, I was designated translator for Aircraft, lol)
On the French Section, on September 9 Saint Loup, one of the members of our community, , explained his doubts about the photos (obviously retouched) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4956966.msg45418848#msg45418848
This argument being admissible (and not wanting to work for an ICO scam), I "investigated":
(The original post is in French, I translated it roughly)
I don't understand Saint Loup's arguments.
To summarize:
- YES the photos are retouched
- NO, it is not enough to characterize a scam (no identity theft, no digital ID creation) it's just UGLY!
I have already answered these "arguments" 2 weeks ago (and others of the same level by the way)
This does not prevent this member from insisting and I would like to understand the reason for this persistence
(as I have already told him - but he does not read me - if I discovered a single real reason to suspect SECURIX of fraud, I myself would immediately proceed with the scam report, and it is still valid)
However, those who read me here know that I do not hesitate to denounce scams if I find them (for the anecdote, I was designated translator for Aircraft, lol)
On the French Section, on September 9 Saint Loup, one of the members of our community, , explained his doubts about the photos (obviously retouched) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4956966.msg45418848#msg45418848
This argument being admissible (and not wanting to work for an ICO scam), I "investigated":
(The original post is in French, I translated it roughly)
Hello Saint Loup,
so I also made the point (and the team check, it's even systematically my first reflex when faced with a project)
But I found other indicators that gave me some confidence (I already wrote it, you have to consider a cluster of presumption rather than a single element).
Of course, thanks to our exchanges (and I thank you for that!) I have gone much further now!
That's why I went a little further on Damian Strauss' CV, noting that the elements he put forward on his biography were corroborated by other sources
(so, that doesn't allow us to have a definitive opinion either. It is always possible to manipulate the data and create digital traces to make a profile credible, but at this stage we talk about spying, and no ICO scammer
).
Anyway, the photoshoping of the image is indeed blatant, just like for other team members (same background, same "style", if you can call it that).
This element must encourage caution,you are right to point it out.
Besides (but I didn't push this path very much), this photo of Damian Strauss seems to be the most easily available on the Internet.
As a result, your question prompted me to take a little more interest in the other members of the team, and more particularly those who were victims of the graphic palette.
Sascha Bouman
"Business Manager", same kind of image processing, same background.
In real, him and hi tatoo, here:
https://dapperebritt.wordpress.com/2016/08/30/sascha-bouman-brengt-fantasy-village-naar-vlaardingen/
Jac Donkersloot
Securix CEO.
He also presents a "suspicious" photo (it's the same on his Linkedin)
We find him here, with the same head, a little less vandalized:
https://myopportunity.com/profile/jac-donkersloot/nw
But especially on this page, which I have just discovered and which relates the different steps of Securix
https://insta-stalker.com/post/BmhxVCXgbHh/
A back photo, not very convincing but it was on September 6th, 3 days ago during a visit of the future premises.
They have nevertheless invested a lot of effort to make their scam credible, you have to recognize them at least that!
Oh, cherry on the cake we see someone in the cornerwho really looks a lot like Damian...
I only do checks on these 2, it seems to me to be more than enough (I did checks on Bredan Stad with the same success, I don't publish it, I didn't do anything else, I didn't do the other members please have fun if you want).
I stop there the investigations Saint Loup, after having spent a few hours there, I do not find the slightest tangible element (other than an impression like as you said "it smells like shit") which allows me to doubt the reality of this ICO (and the elements it puts forward: real estate procedures, addresses, identities, amount of funds...)
On the contrary, I even discovered (once again thanks to you!) additional elements that Securix did not use in its communication and that tend to make them credible![/b]
so I also made the point (and the team check, it's even systematically my first reflex when faced with a project)
But I found other indicators that gave me some confidence (I already wrote it, you have to consider a cluster of presumption rather than a single element).
Of course, thanks to our exchanges (and I thank you for that!) I have gone much further now!
That's why I went a little further on Damian Strauss' CV, noting that the elements he put forward on his biography were corroborated by other sources
(so, that doesn't allow us to have a definitive opinion either. It is always possible to manipulate the data and create digital traces to make a profile credible, but at this stage we talk about spying, and no ICO scammer
).Anyway, the photoshoping of the image is indeed blatant, just like for other team members (same background, same "style", if you can call it that).
This element must encourage caution,you are right to point it out.
Besides (but I didn't push this path very much), this photo of Damian Strauss seems to be the most easily available on the Internet.
As a result, your question prompted me to take a little more interest in the other members of the team, and more particularly those who were victims of the graphic palette.
Sascha Bouman
"Business Manager", same kind of image processing, same background.
In real, him and hi tatoo, here:
https://dapperebritt.wordpress.com/2016/08/30/sascha-bouman-brengt-fantasy-village-naar-vlaardingen/
Jac Donkersloot
Securix CEO.
He also presents a "suspicious" photo (it's the same on his Linkedin)
We find him here, with the same head, a little less vandalized:
https://myopportunity.com/profile/jac-donkersloot/nw
But especially on this page, which I have just discovered and which relates the different steps of Securix
https://insta-stalker.com/post/BmhxVCXgbHh/
A back photo, not very convincing but it was on September 6th, 3 days ago during a visit of the future premises.
They have nevertheless invested a lot of effort to make their scam credible, you have to recognize them at least that!
Oh, cherry on the cake we see someone in the cornerwho really looks a lot like Damian...
I only do checks on these 2, it seems to me to be more than enough (I did checks on Bredan Stad with the same success, I don't publish it, I didn't do anything else, I didn't do the other members please have fun if you want).
I stop there the investigations Saint Loup, after having spent a few hours there, I do not find the slightest tangible element (other than an impression like as you said "it smells like shit") which allows me to doubt the reality of this ICO (and the elements it puts forward: real estate procedures, addresses, identities, amount of funds...)
On the contrary, I even discovered (once again thanks to you!) additional elements that Securix did not use in its communication and that tend to make them credible![/b]
I don't understand Saint Loup's arguments.
To summarize:
- YES the photos are retouched
- NO, it is not enough to characterize a scam (no identity theft, no digital ID creation) it's just UGLY!
I have already answered these "arguments" 2 weeks ago (and others of the same level by the way)
This does not prevent this member from insisting and I would like to understand the reason for this persistence
(as I have already told him - but he does not read me - if I discovered a single real reason to suspect SECURIX of fraud, I myself would immediately proceed with the scam report, and it is still valid)