Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 02, 2018, 07:27:29 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on October 02, 2018, 02:44:45 PM

I don't know whether it's just down to trust or what

I just don't buy that. If we are that worried about assigning new moderators, then just start a few people with very limited power (say, deleting only newbie posts in a specific board only) for a probationary period, say a couple of weeks. Then move up to any posts. Then move up to moving posts to other sections. Then move up to locking threads. Etc. Etc. Even if someone suddenly went on a rampage (highly unlikely) and locked every thread in a board, then you can just demote them and undo all their actions. Or start some new mods in Off Topic. That board is a complete mess, and even if someone went rogue and nuked every thread in there, it would probably be an improvement. If they do a good job there for a few weeks, move them up to a real board. Or put a threat of temp-banning any new mod that goes rogue/does anything malicious.

But seriously, given the numbers of people who clearly care about the forum and spend hours of their time for nothing reading mind-numbing shit to report, I struggle to believe he can't find a handful of people to moderate. It's not a money issue, as he's previously stated about potentially dropping the forum advertising slot altogether. So I just don't understand why we are letting some boards be permanent spam fests with no discussion that most senior members won't even visit, let alone post in.

Well I agree, but trust issues is something theymos has mentioned briefly before, but I don't know whether theymos was on about it's hard to find trustworthy people to do things like the coding of new software or stuff like the accounts/legal dealings here that goes on behind the scenes. I was talking more about making new Admins than just mods though, who would obviously need to have a higher level of trust when you have access to IPs and can restore access to accounts etc. Regular mods obviously also do need to be pretty trusted but there's probably not that much damage they can do other than delete posts etc and would be found out pretty fast and dealt with if they were abusing their position. Posts can easily be restored as well. I get the feeling theymos doesn't really trust anyone to deal with admin issues though because why wouldn't new admins have been made already? (then again, I guess we could ask the same about why more mods haven't been added to meet demand either). We wouldn't have had the issue with accounts not getting restored if one or two other people could be dedicated to restoring accounts. Not addressing these issues though just makes the forum worse and worse in the process. The forum obviously needs both more of mods and admins so that's something theymos should prioritise because there are obviously people here who care about the forum and can make it better in the process and all that is required from theymos is the initial decision that will then free him up for stuff only he can be trusted with (like the coding etc). He must get annoyed at all the constant PMs that he gets from both users and staff for things that he doesn't have the time to do and if he doesn't then distribute that workload which is the most logical answer to the various issues we have here.