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Is it me or even if any company would ship ASIC, they would not reach a return over investment in a finite time ?

I think it's best not to buy anything anyway ...

According to this, http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=200000&p=500.00&pc=.14&pf=0.00&d=1789546951.05324000&r=25.00000000&er=968.25000000&hc=3200, you'd make $19,250.55 per year. Are their calculators off?

Don't trust calculators. You're missing one huge piece of variable: difficulty. Do you think the difficulty's going to stay like that all year?

You are correct, the difficulty will change..... but the value of btc will change as well. What if it goes really high this year?

That's the other variable that you gotta consider when mining. If BTC goes way up...mining equipment is golden.

The real question if you are thinking about mining is, why are you doing it?

If you are mining simply for profit, then you might be wasting your time.

Real miners mine not only for profit, but to support the bitcoin network.

I'm just sayin, do your homework before you purchase a miner if you wish to be profitable.

You may find out that it's not worth your time, or out of affordable reach.

BTC and mining is a movement for change in world finance, not just a profit venture.

how do you know if btc value will change??? is it going to change to higher value or lover value???
you know, mining btc was stop being hobby long time ago! we all mining for profit. one who is telling you that he mine for hobby and for bitcoin network support is full of crap and short in money to invest in much profitable mining gear.

and for OP, stick with your money and wait for next generation miners (5-7TH) and be fast on ordering one!

You don't "know" that btc price will go up in next 6 months, but if you look at a graph of bitcoin prices since 2011, what would your best bet be?

Advising OP to pre-order something very expensive when hashrate is going to go crazy by April .... let's just say I hope he ignores the advice and buys bitcoins instead

I know btc graph very well since beginning of btc!
lot's of time stuck on the same price!
lot's of tme stuck on couple of dollars.
lot's of time stuck on $30 value.
beginning of last year when btc jumped from $30 to $260 value then drop down to $70-$80 and stays around $100 for most of the year. and finally at the end of year jumped to $1000+!
you know why??? because of the Asia and Asia was only major thing missing in the whole story.
There is nothing more to happen to dramatically rise value of btc anymore.
this year, best case scenario, it will stay around $1000! $200-$300 up maybe!!

and one more thing fuck head!!!
learn to read English!!!
I didn't tell to OP to jump in to preorder!!!
I told him to stick wit the money and wait for the next generation of miners!
If you didn't notice dick head, every person in the first batches for delivery is swimming in coins.
it happened with first batch buyers from butterfly, knc, avalon and it will happen with first batch buyers of cointerra 2TH, black arrow x3 and in the future it will happen wit next generation miners and buyers!