Quote from: Zapo on October 06, 2018, 12:09:08 AM

Quote from: eddie13 on October 05, 2018, 03:15:51 PM

-Snip-

The team was currently flying over to dubai for a lot of meetings, so please give me and them some leeway.

Your escrow has been shit, maybe because the "team" wanted to minimize their exposure to you (because they knew), maybe because you just suck at it, maybe both..

Quote from: Zapo on September 24, 2018, 12:16:07 PM

Friday - Didn't bother ~~asking the devs to refill the escrow~~ upholding my obligation as a trusted escrow since I was quite busy irl, so didn't bother.

ftfy
The "escrow" is often sitting underbudget and therefore not protecting participants at all. It's not really even an "escrow", the "team" is just giving you funds to divvy out as needed, not even as needed..
It seems you had about 0.26 in "escrow" for a few days recently but the transactions are such a mess.. Coming from exchange hot wallets and using change addresses - mess..

You should have stuck with the signed escrow address in the OP to keep it TRANSPARENT and simple for all to confirm the campaign is ACTUALLY under escrow, which it is not anyway.. Use a consistent escrow address would ya? You didn't sign any of those other ones did ya? We have no idea who owns outputs to random addresses..
Currently your escrow is negative what, .25 btc? From what I can make of it..

The escrow in the OP is just a ploy to start the campaign and goes right out the window once participants sign up..
Since YOU are the "escrow" if that campaign scams right now it is YOUR fault. Money out of your pocket you owe them because you promised you were protecting the participants from the "team" via escrow.. You have placed that burden upon yourself..
I have mentioned your escrow a couple of times and I think you just don't want to admit that you aren't holding shit anyway..

"Leeway"? Are you guys running a professional business or just winging it?

"Flying to Dubai" is more important than keeping their word? More important than paying their employees? Plane don't have wifi?
I didn't look into it but, are they really "flying to Dubai"? If they are willing to blow their commitment to you, and their employees, off - blow you all off because they are on a plane, do you really think it is a good idea for you to bear the burden of payments for them by being the "escrow" when you have no funds?

No way I would put myself in the position of "escrow" and let it ride with one party not fulfilling their obligation, risk my neck for all those funds..
No way, especially if I didn't have the funds to cover my vouch.
Much less taking out a large loan I couldn't repay and bearing the financial responcibility for some flake "team" flying to dubai, at the same time..

You must be seriously desperate for that job to risk your financial neck to them like that, or more likely risk your name AGAIN and risking the participants financials..

Quote from: Zapo on October 06, 2018, 12:09:08 AM

I'm not incorrect. It did take a lot of planning and talking.

Sure isn't the whole truth now is it? Leaving out the exact details he was getting at weren't ya?
If you didn't want the world to know you should have PM'd him the truth..

Quote from: Zapo on October 06, 2018, 12:09:08 AM

It was a lot of months since my last lending applications.

Dude...
You just asked for a 1BTC loan less than a month prior!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5018701.msg45276131#msg45276131
http://archive.is/1pdLo since you like deleting similar shit
September 06, 2018, 06:00:57 AM

Quote from: Zapo

Hello Lending Community!

I want to make a quite large purchase IRL and might need a huge amount of funds amount for it. So a couple of questions.

1. Would I qualify for a no collateral loan of 1 BTC for quite a long term? I don't have a lot of reputation, except I'm currently holding around 1.5 BTC in escrow, and have paid out ~ 3 BTC for 2 signature campaigns.
2. Do people accept 4-5 month long loans? My preferred rate is 0.2 BTC repayment per month, for 5 months.

Thanks!

Is BTCT your only form of income?
You are already asking for quite sizable loans out of "desperation".. That is really last resort stuff..

What if they would have given your zapo the loan AND THEN you got uncovered like you have, which would have decreased your ability to repay the loan?
What if your signature campaign jobs didn't work out? What was your plan for repayment? Throw another account away..

Quote from: Zapo

Hello Lending Community!
I want to make a quite large purchase IRL and might need a huge amount of funds amount for it. So a couple of questions.

A month ago you were confident enough to just make a huge purchase.. Asking for that full 1 BTC loan..
Next loan..

Quote from: Zapo on October 03, 2018, 04:49:44 AM

I'll be converting the BTC into USD for the purpose of paying bills and making purchases, but I will be paid a set BTC amount by my employers, so this is why I'm asking for this loan tied to BTC.

I'm more than happy to re-negotiate loan terms, making everyone happy.

Negotiate HIGHER than 33.333% interest?
Then you are going to pay bills and buy things.. Not very sustainable.. Very confident in your income from "employers" and ability to repay the loan..

And now..

Quote from: Zapo on October 05, 2018, 01:02:12 AM

half me sort of desperate.

Are you desperate to buy things like some Black Friday wackjob consumer addict?
You didn't tell those lenders you were desperate did you?
That was all you just being some actor.. Some anon alias, playing the part..
You admit misrepresenting a lot in your lending applications..

Are you desperate for money to survive? Are you confident enough in your financials to spend 1BTC on a large purchase on credit? Are you that desperate to buy things?
Choose one..

What are you going to do when you get even more desperate?
Which is likely.. You really are willing to skate on thin ice wanting a large loan to buy things while holding a negative balance "escrow"..

Quote from: Zapo on October 06, 2018, 01:04:43 AM

I ran a lending buisness

Quote from: Zapo on October 05, 2018, 01:02:12 AM

not knowing how high-interest rates are on bitcointalk

These RECENT ACTIONS are plenty for me, regardless of old Atriz drama with snakey or other, that "Kevin" is not a highly trustworthy individual..
Not to say that I think he is going to exit scam a campaign, a large loan, or both.. But his word is no good..
A person's WORD to me is more important than "have held large funds"..

The last person you should lie to, or misrepresent facts to (at best), are potential creditors.. IMO

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Lets dig into this part..

Quote from: Zapo on October 03, 2018, 12:00:36 PM

Quote from: zazarb on October 03, 2018, 11:55:21 AM

Quote from: Zapo on October 03, 2018, 04:01:05 AM

Hi Bitcointalk, I'm looking for a loan with these terms,

I found the public has access only to the following address where you held fund:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17wW3y8HgcRACw6e8wjB5bkuc1CFJzvRQM
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/14cJEUeGm157ok88ouskfDGwbSmzf2Kgcr
Total 1.76BTC

Hi zazarb,
I didn't bother with changing the escrow address weekly, because of the wallet I use changes addresses everytime I send a TXID. For example, here is a TXID thats not from an address listed in the OP.

Quote from: Zapo on October 01, 2018, 12:52:29 PM

Was refilled by devs via https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/13900245d8b37c3b5177647e808b65eb2cd9bff69919d4380b9d8c5946c064ad

Both addresses zazarb quotes held some funds from 8-8 until 8-16 and 8-18..
Which convienently coorelates with the openings of both campaigns BQT and IOU..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4845370
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4862272.0

Like I said earlier, just a PLOY to start the campaigns and then the "escrow" goes right out the window..
They are also what he uses as reference for being so trusted.. "I held those funds I'm super trusty"

BUT, zapo's reply with...

Quote from: Zapo on October 01, 2018, 12:52:29 PM

Was refilled by devs via https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/13900245d8b37c3b5177647e808b65eb2cd9bff69919d4380b9d8c5946c064ad

Shit multi TX from a hot wallet for 1, he should have linked to https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1AKwj14zZfGPcbXkJE7iVF8hLctrMjRhJF ..
It only held funds for 14 hours, which is NOT "escrow"..

STOP calling it "escrow", it is merely fund distribution.. Unless you are guaranteeing payment out of your own pocket, which you can't afford, and then it's still not "escrow", but a guarantee vouch..

Quote from: Zapo on August 08, 2018, 12:45:01 PM

Payment Details

Escrow Address - 17wW3y8HgcRACw6e8wjB5bkuc1CFJzvRQM

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Zapo confirming that I am holding 0.7 BTC for the IOU signature campaign (first week). This address should be topped up weekly.
17wW3y8HgcRACw6e8wjB5bkuc1CFJzvRQM
Hxf/fLeKYzb/Zf+4PdBMwNv1oyqvgidu61j+Lx0P+CYUGTBOZQnsAEn6qkRh/D12yuohJ7wPuPhPyo+T+LQ5qzk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Quote from: Zapo on August 10, 2018, 09:44:14 AM

Escrow Address - 14cJEUeGm157ok88ouskfDGwbSmzf2Kgcr

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Zapo confirming that I am holding 0.7 BTC for the BQT signature campaign (first week). This address should be topped up weekly.
14cJEUeGm157ok88ouskfDGwbSmzf2Kgcr
Hz53nUWZzrzi5ICkpcWqeefToEQramEFdfpzvMWhYLPhSyucpKoW7iTyKYh0AzTy5TjGXr1KADAa2wAFtU7NE+U=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

"Topped up weekly" - lol Didn't bother.. Should yeah if it was really an escrow, but it's not..
The signed messages are not even proof that zapo held those funds.. It is not an old known address of his..

Just as he was "forced" to continue a scam campaign because he had 2 weeks invested in it, now he is "forced" to continue as a fraudulent "escrow"..

I would tell the "team" to fulfill their escrow obligations as promised or fuck right off, but I'm not desperate to make money from Bitcointalk, and who knows what the agreement really is between zapo and the "team"..