Quote from: Fatanut on October 04, 2018, 05:04:51 AM

Quote from: Pan Troglodytes on October 03, 2018, 07:05:01 AM

Quote from: Fatanut on August 27, 2018, 12:26:13 PM

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It honestly is not about what device that you have. Others believe that Apple can never have a virus since you can't download just any file from the Web using that phone. Does anyone really know someone who got their Smartphone hacked? I have friends who click every Ads and pop-up prompts but they never got their phone hacked. In a computer, these people have tons of virus what does those virus do? The most troublesome I encountered was a virus that auto-downloads and installs apps without your knowledge. Other than that? Nope.
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I have to disagree. Maybe you were lucky with your viruses, but the net (even this forum) is full of stories of people who had the phones or computers hacked and used to do some financial freud (the virus can for instance replace the legit bank account or bitcoin address with the attacker's one, making you send your money to the attacker).

The phones are actually much more dangerous when hacked, because they not only can access bank accounts or wallets, but they usually act as 2FA devices, in effect the attacker controls both authentication channells of the victim.

And have you heard of viruses that encrypt the victim's hard drive? The attacker says they would reveal the key only after you have send them bitcoin.

To those people, I say "What the hell have you been doing with your computer?" and it's mostly the people who likes to post about deep web stuff that gets such virus. Why would hackers ransomware attack random people when most people haven't even heard of bitcoin? They are attacking larger companies. Just like in this video where a police station got a ransomware attack multiple times: VICE: How easy it is to get hacked? Now let's ask ourselves, why would hackers care about our pdfs, documents, or excels? They wouldn't. They are targeting institutions who are in need of their files in order to get going with their job so they are pretty much forced to pay for it.

People who gets extreme virus in their home computer are probably doing nasty stuff with their PC. The surface net doesn't have this type of virus. If you're only browsing the typical youtube, IG, facebook, etc. how can you catch these viruses? Plus, it's the people who likes to dive deep into the net who doesn't even understand how to keep their computers secure. They are probably using Windows Defender, ffs.

I'm using the Internet 10-16 hours a day yet my computer is as clean as it can get. It's all about getting rid of the virus and not getting the virus. You have to be weary of little things like your browser changing the homepage, or changing the search engine (instead of Google or whatever you set it), and your computer downloading things or installing new apps without your permission.

The company computers that are targetted get infected not because all the victims like to go to the same fishy sites, but rather the virus gets sent out as a link in an internal email or there is some crawler that infects the computers via some compromised and not firewalled port or protocol. Even if you may be right that regular people will not be directly targetted, both attack vectors can make other computers "collateral" victims, as regular people may get the email and click the link or run the exec file or the crawler may just crawl unto their computer.

I am not saying that there are no countermeasures. Every sane person will use a firewall and an antivir and they will be smart enough not to click suspicious links. But there is this race - new viruses, new attack vectors, they all try to outrun the antivir software and outsmart firewalls.

All I want to say is that I consider viruses a very serious threat, to my bitcoin and bank accounts too (and don't want to underestimate this threat).