Quote from: Steamtyme on October 05, 2018, 02:07:09 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on October 05, 2018, 04:31:44 AM

I think just creating this topic by Zapo himself is a brave step to confront his critics, either good or bad.

This was done because he had been on LoyceV's radar; and became a concern when asking for a decent sized no collateral loan. Essentially a come clean or I'll expose you situation.

Quote from: Zapo on October 05, 2018, 01:24:23 AM

Edit - The only "loan" on the forum here is to snakey. And I'm not paying him the 10 eth or so, after I found out he was pinkman123345. So he backstabbed me and he wants me to pay him a couple grand? Bullshit.

I can't say I'm familiar with this loan in particular. If you could point me to a thread where it is discussed and makes sense why you wouldn't repay I'd appreciate it. I'm wondering if Snakey/Pinkman12345 did something to cause you to need the loan, by scamming you or stealing from you. Then loaned you what you needed. If that is the case and is provable your stance makes sense.

All in all, I'm for second chances. It does appear you burned up quite a few of those all in a short period of time; they could be lumped into one bad stretch of poor decisions. I like to believe you would have come clean after building up the account but that would have been less tempting than say doing it 3 weeks ago, you would have more and more to lose every week that passed as the account built up.

The part that concerns me the most is that you had been renting out your Atriz account to someone while building up Zapo. Iirc this was ongoing while you began managing these campaigns; that to me is continuing on with poor decisions. You likely used your Atriz reputation to get those accounts under your belt, which is fine but do you see how the Atriz account still had some reputation, and that lending out that account could have resulted in a scam large or small. I also don't see the value in lending someone an account to test out the forum, considering that would not be their experience, due to ranking up with merit changing things.

I hate to tell anyone how to act (apart from my kids) but I would suggest take time to think about how your actions will be perceived by/or affect the community before acting. For the foreseeable future, escrow account funds. Yes you will take a hit on your earnings from the fee, but you also add a layer of trust to your dealings.

Good luck moving forward, try not to get caught up in shady shit.

This is the "loan" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253973.0

I promised to pay him back, but after I found he was pinkman (who was my friend at the time) and then he backstabbed me.

Quote from: TucoRamirez on October 05, 2018, 02:04:11 PM

Quote from: Zapo on October 05, 2018, 01:58:43 PM

All the money I made off the ICO that pinkman got "scammed" was around 4 eth, and I repaid him 5 eth before he backstabbed me. I don't see why I should donate the remaining balance as the money I earnt accidentally is already gone.

Ok, misunderstood - thought you took a loan from pinkman12345, found out he is a scammer, and are not repaying. He has 0.54BTC in defaulted
loans as of now.

Didn't understand the "earnt accidentally" bit...

Either way, would appreciate your assistance in providing any and all relevant info about him here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043688

Earn't accidentally: I took that payment upfront, found out it was a scam 3 days in, closed everything.