Quote from: 33bitcoin on October 05, 2018, 10:01:42 PM

Quote from: Patatas on October 05, 2018, 07:49:56 PM

Quote from: bitcoin10201 on October 05, 2018, 03:08:21 PM

Shapeshift requires ID to make any conversion and Changelly doesn't work for me. Where can I convert bitcoin to monero without ID now? What exchange or service?

Changelly is a scam dude! You shouldn't be trading there for whatever reasons. You can buy monero almost everywhere where the general trading takes place. If you want to avoid all the exchange KYC hassle, create a thread on the forum and deal with someone trusted. Some accounts on LBC also offer to accept other coins privately so might as well want to checkout traders in your region

There is a big scam accusation against Changelly right now. They are scamming select users that transfer a large balance, they stole over 10BTC from a user.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034589.0

Although the accuser that you linked in that thread seems borderline retarded, the statements given by changelly are indeed deeply concerning.

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Changelly is part of cryptocurrency ecosystem that has to implement KYC procedure to comply with the regulators' policies. To be fair, suspending transactions, if detected, is a common practice in every financial structure.
It is necessary to say that we always warn users about KYC check BEFORE they send a deposit to us. Sending money to Changelly is not possible if the box is not ticked. Please check - > https://imgur.com/a/vMjGbG9. If not ready, customers must refuse from performing a transaction.
We all need to understand that the government regulations is an inevitable side-effect of mass adoption, so we need to stick with common sense and provide users with the best experience possible in the current circumstances. Thats why 99,5% of overall transactions are still processed anonymously on our service.

Once again, the customer didn't use Changelly for the transaction that got subjected to KYC check. Hence, we do recommend to contact the support team of the relevant service on all matters.

So they basically trap you with their KYC. It's like gambling as to whether or not you're subject to a KYC check. Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think that there are any standards as to when someone has to undergo this procedure. Which basically allows them to selectively apply this on their customers, and there is no way for a regular guy like you and me to know whether or not it was justified..

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Once again, the customer didn't use Changelly for the transaction that got subjected to KYC check. Hence, we do recommend to contact the support team of the relevant service on all matters.

So when you use a thirdparty that uses Changelly's api (ChangeNow?), you won't get the checkmark for a KYC check, but you ARE subject to one? Am i getting that correct? That seems borderline illegal?

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As we could understand, the transaction in question wasnt even initiated via our service but via ChangeNOW. It is significant to mention that we are not responsible for any transactions performed via services using our API as literally everyone can use it and create their own exchange services.

Uhhh?