Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

Well, let's name the facts instead of claiming false accusations here. Wink

Oh look a fanboy. More than happy to talk "facts" about IRM here. Also happy to talk about IRM's false "facts" that totally contradict their Whitepaper and their project in general. You okay with that or do your eyes only read what they want to see?

Quote from: Calidude on October 04, 2018, 09:41:32 AM

They do not give a shit about the current investors as they are now blocking any potential new investors, not that many would invest now that they have seen the size of the payouts. Cheesy

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

Actually this is a big lie, don't you watch their q&a? The whole profits of the team and investors are depending on the operations, 10% team, 50% investors. If you wasn't aware of this it's your fault, it's no suprise, Icerock has said this very often.

So you think that I was telling a lie about the Telegram not being open? Well at the time of posting it was not, they have since re-opened it and probably closed it again, who knows. But what I said is true by blocking/distancing themselves from new investors they are harming the current investors chances of profit, so there was never a lie just plain facts. Ouch that must hurt.

Quote from: Calidude on October 04, 2018, 09:41:32 AM

Quote from: cmg95005 on September 30, 2018, 09:23:00 AM

Well I'm the so-called "idiot" with 20,000 ROCK2 tokens. The first payout I got was 0.114 Rock2Pay which can be converted to ETH in 1:1 ratio.

So for your 20,000 ROCK2 tokens which at 50% Discount on ICO price cost you 10 Grand you received......wait for it......at whopping $27 dollars....at most.

Do you feel proud? LOL $81.00 per month.

Quote from: Calidude on October 04, 2018, 09:41:32 AM

Quote from: cmg95005 on September 30, 2018, 09:23:00 AM

So when it is running at full capacity, I'd expect 0.114x4x10=about 4.5 ETH/month. Given the current ETH price @$233, I'll be getting over 1000/month in payout. It's about 120% return annually when running at full capacity. I don't see this as a scam or bad investment, just takes some time.

Your figures are wrong and have not taken into account difficulty and price movements.

At best you will receive $100 per month in 2 or 3 months time. So in total your 10K will have given you around $400-$500 for a "cough" lifetime investment.

When do you expect to make your money back, some time in 2023?

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

Do you know the word risk?

Do you know the word Shill?

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

Give me a name of any mining company offering better payouts that IRM -

How about you give me the name of one that pays out worse than IRM? There was a guy who recently posted for his $10000.00 USD investment he received a massive $25.00 for the Month. LOL.

Based on that alone the ROCK2 tokens value is actually at about $0.05 USD.

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

you'll find none! Because all other are not profitable or keep the profits for themselves. Remember the difficulty how high it got! Ther are many capitalist miners just mining and keeping all the profits for themselves. We don't need these capitalist, centralized miners, they are not better than the current rich idiots. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S00MWI3YeP4
Dou you support such an egoisic behaviour? If I read your comments I get the impression that you do. We need companies like IRM to make a decentralized project and give profits to normal people. We don't need centralized mining farms controlling everything!!!!

Blah blah blah. What was that rant even about? Sorry but not even going to dignify that dribble with a relevant reply, because there is none.

Quote from: Calidude on October 04, 2018, 09:41:32 AM

Difficulty will be through the roof next year leading up to the halving and you are better off selling up and buying 1.5 BTC now than trusting these liars with your hard earned money.

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

The only liar here is you in addition making investment advices based on lies. Roll Eyes

I notice with a slight smile that while you are calling me a liar for posting IRM's lies you conveniently did not quote said lies, and why would that be? We both know the answer to that, it is because what I posted is the truth, they have lied many times and continue to do so. Fool. Cheesy

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

You definitely haven't any exprience of doing such an large scale project and can't imagine what it takes for efforts. Roll Eyes

And in addition you know nothing about crypto market in general. It's a surprise for you that 400% ROI isn't possible in the current market situation? Yeah? Have you looked up how the 400% werde calculated? I assume no Roll Eyes

Market conditions have changed drastically, this is no surprise after BTC price spike in December.

These comments are speaking for themselves, that you would keep your plans until you crash in total, the movement of the farm to the warehouse is a great decision, they will expand it into a large scale operation saving costs for maintenance and make it a huge operation sharing the profits to everyone. We need such projects to keep mining decentralized instead of capitalist money maker farms.

LOL Now I know for sure, from your not so quite correct English in those last few sentence's and the fact that you referenced "how hard the work is" that you are from their team, which one are you? Haydar? Ugar? Fucken Radar? Cheesy

Quote from: Calidude on October 04, 2018, 09:41:32 AM

Ask Peter K. LOL

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

At least he is more educated it crypto business.

Really? I was not aware that shilling and ass-licking was a precursor for education in Crypto.

Quote from: Calidude on October 04, 2018, 09:41:32 AM

I don't hate IRM, I think they are con artists who have deceived many people.......me included until I woke up but the problem is that they continue to LIE to their investors in the Telegram, every single day I read it there is bans, warnings, non-stop ass kissing and lots of promises and B.S from their monkey admins on there.

Dias is a Criminal and so is Malik. Do not be surprised to see them arrested one day.

That will be their exit scam plan. "Sorry guys but the power company says we can no longer use the warehouse, we are working hard to find a new location.......which will never come.

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

How ignorant can someone be? They will never exit-scam, please stop telling your wishes!

Uh Oh. Your English again. Please if you are going to try and come across as a "random investor" defending his investment, please ask a native English speaker to play the part next time, not that I or anyone else will not see through the bullshit, but it would make it slightly harder. Wink

Also got to love your comment there. "They will never exit-scam" Said no one ever who has been in Crypto more than 6 months. Cheesy

Quote from: Master of Shitcoins on October 07, 2018, 10:52:11 AM

If they are scammers they would have already taken the money, now they are beginning the operations it's obvious that they are not interested to do a scam. They are well known, pictures and videos everywhere now, a scam would have taken them to prison, even direct after ICO.
Another investor visited IRM and a video will come out soon! Let's see your lies when this video is out, maybe you say it's a fake person, Dias in a costume or something like this. Cheesy

I recommend everyone to watch this video and make your own opinion, if they are scammers. You'll not find any better mining project: REMOVED SHIT PROPOGANDA LINK

As I have said repeatedly I never believed them to be scammers in the sense that they will not start mining, and so far this has proven to be true. That however does not preclude them from suddenly stopping payouts now does it? Not that anyone would notice a payout missing they are that small.

You see, as I have said earlier, these guys (you) are playing the long-con (Look up the Kasak term).

It will play out something like this, as time goes buy and more miners are slowly put on board, HOPEFULLY the honest investors will realize this whole thing is a sham. Why is it a sham? There are many many reasons, most of which I have previously listed in the lies which you conveniently left out when quoting me.

So I think the scenario will play out like this, they will continue to buy more miners and keep mining (at a location not known to anyone....(that does help when you do exit btw) and then they will play the difficulty card or that the "FREE" facility they have been "Given by the electricity company" cough cough.......bullshit, is now no longer available and they will then say we hope to move to new location soon with blah blah.....and you will never ever hear from you/them again.

Meanwhile they have all this time they/you are profiting from exploiting investors, all the investors have done is given them the ability to build their own mining operation and long after they have stopped paying it will still be running.

Why are they paying in ETH........Actually strike that, they lied about that as well and are paying through their own 3rd token which THEY CONTROL. So they can pull the plug anytime.

Also they were previously ETH miners so every small payment sent to IRM investors is not even coming from the BTC operations they have their own large bags of ETH that is what they are using for payment and the BTC will be kept like gold and investors will not see ANY of the BTC.

Which reminds me, while you are pointing fingers and mentioning other mining providers name one that mines BTC and does not pay out in BTC, unless the user specifically requests a different coin or algo? Another Red Flag.

I will finish now buy doing the honors of re-quoting the lies thus far that they have put forth, feel free to point out ANY part of these lies which are incorrect. I bet you cannot because they are all fact you idiot. Cheesy

The lies..........Updated version.

1. They lied about the calculations on the website. FACT Still a lie they told investors and always will be.

2. They lied about being paid in ETH and instead you are getting paid in ROCK2PAY a contract which THEY control, so they can cut off payments anytime they like, and just disappear from being online and your money is gone.....well it already is now anyway. FACT Still a lie they told investors and always will be.

3. They lied about opening the Telegram to new investors. FACT. At the time but they do not like people asking questions so maybe it has been closed again, either way they lied about opening it.

4. They lied about the Cave itself, now they are using some dusty dirty shithole of a warehouse and have now gone against the whole concept of the "Cave Mining". FACT Still a lie they told investors and always will be.

5. They continue to lie on their videos and to their investors and they ban people just for asking a question. They ban or warn for anything that is not an ass-kissing post. Ask Peter K. LOL

FACT. And I have screenshots of many of their banning's of people for simply asking a question. Want me to post them here? Or would you say I photoshopped the whole thing? Cheesy

One more lie I forgot to add, and this one is the most obvious one and still on their ANN thread. "Lifetime Profit"Tell me how that is not a straight up lie?

If I were 18 now and invested in IRM do you seriously think that when I am 85 I would still be receiving a profit from BTC mining? Cheesy

So yep, lets make that lie number 6.

And these lies are not small white lies or inconsequential lies they are lies that are totally against what their own Whitepaper said, especially when it comes to Cave mining and the ETH payments. Why any fool would invest with these shysters is beyond me.

I await your reply to refute the lies they have told. Roll Eyes