Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2018, 11:13:43 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 08, 2018, 11:09:46 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2018, 10:24:16 PM

Quote from: avbitx on October 08, 2018, 09:50:24 PM

There,s nothing we can do to prove Beliefs, because GOD is belief.

How do you know that empty space exists? You can't grab hold of it. You can't find ways to analyze it directly. Science doesn't really know what it is. So, can you prove that empty space exists? Or is empty space just a belief?

The way we know that empty space exists is to analyze relationships between some of the things that lie within empty space. So, we know that empty space is a fact. We don't have to simply believe.

Cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, when combined as they are in our universe, prove that God exists. Why? Because these 3 things can't exist together as they do in our universe without God making them to exist this way.

Do these 3 describe God? Barely. We can't tell from these 3 if He is the God af any particular religion, or if there is no religion that describes Him. But they DO let us know that He exists, simply because they could not exist without Him.

Cool

''Cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, when combined as they are in our universe, prove that God exists. Why? Because these 3 things can't exist together as they do in our universe without God making them to exist this way.'' How so?

Why is a god (your god) necessary to make those 3 things exist? You are simply assuming it for some unknown reason when your whole argument doesn't say anything about god. Where in your argument do you show that those 3 things can't exist without god?

I have explained this over and over for you. If you are really curious, go on back over the thread and read what I have said. Start here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

Nope, we already discussed this several times and always ends up with you not being able to explain how it points to your god. As previously discussed: Nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities

Even if we agree with all the arguments there, it still doesn't show it was your god and not other god or multiple gods or multiple aliens or a simulation or anything that you can imagine. Your argument only shows 1 feature of what created the universe, it says it has to be more complex so anything that's more complex could be the creator/creators.

Again, you can't really get away with this badecker, your argument is dead, admit it.