Quote from: BADecker on October 09, 2018, 03:31:59 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2018, 11:13:43 PM

I have explained this over and over for you. If you are really curious, go on back over the thread and read what I have said. Start here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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Nope, we already discussed this several times and always ends up with you not being able to explain how it points to your god. As previously discussed: Nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities

Even if we agree with all the arguments there, it still doesn't show it was your god and not other god or multiple gods or multiple aliens or a simulation or anything that you can imagine. Your argument only shows 1 feature of what created the universe, it says it has to be more complex so anything that's more complex could be the creator/creators.

Again, you can't really get away with this badecker, your argument is dead, admit it.

If we discussed this, we barely discussed it. Rather, I almost always discussed about God, but you almost always discussed about god. Do you see the difference? In addition, you constantly talk about my god, whereas this thread has always been about God.

The point is that we are talking in different directions. We are talking right past each other. And you are talking, basically, off-topic. Why are you talking off-topic? Because the OP, and the topic title, both talk about God rather than god, just as most of what I talk about is God, and seldom god, and barely ever my god (if I even have one), and seldom ever even my God.

Why do talk as you do? Because you don't have any answers against the scientific proof that God exists, even though you might wish that He doesn't exist.

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The thread talks about the god from the bible, which is also the god you believe in. ''in the Bible'' It's mentioned in the first post and the article clearly says it's the God from the bible so we are talking about the same thing.

If you were confused because I typed god instead of God, you must be really confused about a lot of things.

''Because you don't have any answers against the scientific proof that God exists'' Again, your ''proof'' goes like this:

Entropy: A beginning

Cause and Effect: Universe must have a cause

Complexity(not defined but it doesn't matter): Whatever created the universe must be more complex than it

And that's where your argument ends, where does it show it was god? It simply shows the universe had a beginning and a cause and it has to be more complex. Again, this does not show it was God, it only points out to a complex being or beings or something that is not a sentient being, since it only has to be more complex.

God from the Bible that the OP talks about is the God of the universe. Why? That is what the Bible says.

The Bible talks about God from a different standpoint than science. This thread talks about a scientific standpoint. This means that Bible stuff doesn't count if it doesn't fit scientific stuff. So, the Bible in the OP simply tells us that we are talking about God, not god (There are many gods referred to in the Bible, now and again.).

So, which god of the Bible are you talking about? The God of the universe is supported scientifically as I have shown in the links, above.

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EDIT: Probably the most complex thing in the universe is the brain of mankind, and/or its inter-connectivity, and/or the communications that go on between the parts of the brain through the inter-connectivity. There is sentience connected to the brain of mankind. Complexity only makes equal or less complexity. Therefore, God is greater sentience.

''So, which god of the Bible are you talking about? The God of the universe is supported scientifically as I have shown in the links, above.''
Entropy: A beginning

Cause and Effect: Universe must have a cause

Complexity(not defined but it doesn't matter): Whatever created the universe must be more complex than it

And that's where your argument ends, where does it show it was god? It simply shows the universe had a beginning and a cause and it has to be more complex. Again, this does not show it was God, it only points out to a complex being or beings or something that is not a sentient being, since it only has to be more complex.

Complexity only makes equal or less complexity. Therefore, God is greater sentience.

Complexity only makes equal or less complexity, Therefore whatever created the universe had to be more complex, not God, just more complex, why Your God and not many gods?