Quote from: deepceleron on August 20, 2011, 02:02:28 PM

Quote from: Jack of Diamonds on August 19, 2011, 10:53:25 AM

Quote from: Graet on August 19, 2011, 02:05:40 AM

Graet: Catholics do not believe in freedom of religion.

wow

Every religion demands absolute belief that their dogma is the correct one, and punishes doubt. Allowing doubt opens the gateway to thoughtful analysis and logic. Analysis such as "if I was born in a different country with different parents and a different color skin, would I believe just as deeply in the religion I was taught there since my birth?"

First, I'm a Christian, NOT Catholic. Luke is wrong. Jesus never said anything about forcing the issue.

Not in the old testmament:
Joshua 24:15 - And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve;

Or the New Testament:
John 15:16 - You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you....

That latter verse is the answer to your thought about being born outside of Christian society.

I invite you to try to prove with logic that there is no God. PM me, we can start a debate. I've been through such discussions a hundred times. Its always the same, they leave their logical fails like hanging fastballs over the plate, they get lit up. Then they get mad, pretend they won, and leave with the ball.