Quote from: pedangrusak on October 23, 2018, 10:30:35 AM

if your statement is true and absolute then all we have to do is guess the direction the whale is moving, when we are behind them all will win even if you don't have any skills. Is that true?

If you can accurately guess the directions the whales are taking there is no way you will not make profits from the market. Some times you have analyzed the market and the next thing you see is that the market is going against that analysis that you have made. I think we just need to predict the whales's action and make profits instead of follow technical and fundamentals analysis that the whales can turn with just a click of mouse.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 23, 2018, 08:24:47 AM

Quote from: arpon11 on October 23, 2018, 07:06:16 AM

The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins.
This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis. The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.

Do you call a person a whale based on what they call themselves? Then you are wrong. A whale is a big investor or a big buyer of coins. Can be your neighborhood "richboi of richdad" who bought crypto thinking its going up to moon while its a shitcoin going down. Thats also a whale. It can be a venture capitalist who take TA into account and has been watching the market like everyday and thought that this was a time to buy in.

You are a fool if you think TA is bullshit. This is a selective biased opinion of some people who have lost money and an expression of the hidden frustration of days of hodling and seeing red markets. If you cant handle it then you should not venture into crypto.

It is good you express your opinion without results to abusing word. However, technical analysis can only predicts the market not the mind of traders. Those that has huge money, moves this market to they favour. It exists in every market and not because you analyzed an asset and you lose money at the end mean your analysis is wrong but you were not luck, and that is why the whales takes the other way.