Quote from: Jungian on January 25, 2014, 02:06:55 PM

Quote from: Xav on January 25, 2014, 09:33:19 AM

Did I touch a nerve here?

Yes, attacking virtue and degrading it should touch everyones nerves, so I sure hit my spot.

Sorry to hear that, but I was just using the word "just". Grow up, or even better, gain some mental and spiritual fitness.

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The word "just" as in "no more than". Sure, I've reason to believe you, greedy cookie-monster, reduce mankind to "just" production units. It is completely on your own account that you assign the word "just" to "horrible" and "boring".

This is not a new converstation with statists, they always some up with the same question - and always imply the same thing. That people who think that productivity is something good actually want humans to be robotesque units in a technologial dystopi. If that is not what you meant - you'd be the first.

My thoughts are well expressed by my own words. Your words make them look silly, because you did not understand.

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Moreover you confuse the meaning of the word "production" with something beautiful as "creation".

Nope. All creation requires productivity.

Wrong. It's your misinterpretation about the essence of cause and effect. Creativity comes before production. Always. It's a mental process. Take for instance Bitcoin, first there is design, and then there will be coding and at the far end there is implementation and ... producing (aka mining).

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On top of that, you seem very afraid of people getting something for free, or in exchange for sharing insightful thoughts and intentions for a change to create a better world.

No, I'm just highly unimpressed by people who use cheap words that sound great but create horrible situations. Intentions are as useful as dirt, only results matter. Would you go to a doctor that worn the most beatiful dresses and talked of creating a glourious utopia and yet performed surgery with a wooden spoon? Sure, the doctor probably had good intentions, but the patient died.

So far, I do not have the impression your words produce any good nor admiration. You're trying to be a smart alec and sprout a lot of mishmash from your doctrine "greed is good."

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Let me ask you a very simple question. What's the value of your health? Any idea what a physician produce? Now, eat your cookies, and stay fit.

It's highy valuable. (Good) Physicians produce good health. Cookies taste good and I stay fit thank you very much.

You seem to stretch the meaning of "production" to an extreme extent, which gives reason to describe the contribution by the Dalai Lama as the production of mental and spiritual health, and ... it costs (you) nothing and benefits all.