Quote from: _ingsoc on January 25, 2014, 04:33:55 PM

I don't normally make these kinds of posts, or even bother with an account, but Bitcointalk has really deteriorated since I first saw it. Half the people on here can't even construct a proper sentence, but for some reason think we should all hear what they have to say, no matter how asinine the crap they shout over and over.

I've got a couple of points, if you care enough to read:

(1) These guys are trying to build something interesting here. They've put thought into it and a lot of energy. You need to learn how to respect someone else's work, even if you disagree with it. If the whole world operated like the people posting on Bitcointalk, we would live in a real-life idiocracy. Take a step back and realise you're just smearing crap on the walls someone else built through hard work - what have you done?

(2) If you do come to the conclusion that you don't like the project, that's fine. Try and make a statement that's rational and move on. People are shouting about devs demanding millions of dollars when nobody is demanding anything, how young Vitalik is when that has zero impact on anything (can't imagine what you were like at 19 - Lord help us), or this totally irrational obsession with premine = bad when the roads you drive on and the water you drink got premined and delivered to your tires and orifices through some type of social organisation.

(3) We don't live in a fantasy world where devs are free. People need to eat and can't develop something as significant as this project over many years without getting paid. The BTC raised will be completely transparent and go to actually making this happen (and that'll be transparent as well). If you knew anything about project development, let alone cryptocurrency development, you would know how incredibly hard it is to find competent developers. They have those and the contacts to get more. In fact, if you did a little bit of research, you would know there's constant activity of totally open code being written on a near daily basis already.

(4) The founders need to have a vested interest, just like developers. They are the ones who will champion this project harder than anyone else. If there's no incentive for them to do so, what's the point? The founders are going to dedicate years of their lives to growing this project and creating value through building something that's novel. Most projects to date have been amateur hour, and the bar is being set pretty high with Ethereum - maybe that explains all the butthurt some people have about it. How about you look into what each of the founders have contributed to this community? I think you'll get a pretty good understanding of how significant this project is for the larger and future ecosystem if you do.

tl;dr Respect someone's hard work, learn to move on if you disagree, understand that making cool things costs money, and look at the bigger picture.

You know what? You are just a shill and yes these guys are frackin greedy bordering on thieving. Do devs deserve to get paid, yes. Do they deserve to rip people off, hell no. The reason there is a decidedly negative stance on this is because people have a general sense of fairness and this is not it.

You want people to respect their hard work? Show me what you are talking about. Go to an investment banker, hire some attorneys and procure a prospectus and make it publicly available. When you are asking people to fund 36 million dollars, there should be an adequate amount of due diligence available for prospective investors. A youtube video and an advertisement on Bitcointalk forum is frackin not only hilarious its downright appalling. You try going into a bank or venture capitalist's office and asking them for 36 million and 50% premine with absolutely no risk LMAO. They would throw you out of the room and yet you have the gall to come on here and evangelize on why they deserve to get PAID and deserve our respect and money? Go kill yourself. Your sense of fairness is seriously warped.

If no bank or venture capitalist in their right mind would fund this deal, why are they crowdsourcing? Because they think coin investors are idiots. You want respect for your work? Go spend a few hundred thousand and hire an investment banker and attorneys to draw up a prospectus like any DECENT hardworking entrepreneurs would do that asks for 36 million plus from joe public.