Quote from: cardcomm on January 25, 2014, 07:10:14 PM

Quote from: alfabitcoin on January 25, 2014, 05:40:11 PM

Furher, i can call him only a scared sissy for not doing anything for us.
As eu buyer I can not do anything, not even legal action and I at least wont let this thread go dead.

I wonder if ICPEN would be an option for those buyers outside the U.S.

Here is a link for information on cross-border disputes:
http://icpen.org/for-consumers/do-you-have-a-crossborder-dispute

Or you can report your complaint here:
http://www.econsumer.gov/english/report/overview.shtm

Of course, these steps would be for filing criminal charges only and would not likely yield you a refund. But depending on where you live law enforcement may take action of some kind.

For me personally, Steamboat has bought himself exactly one week. Any longer and I'll begin the process of filing my criminal complaints. I'm done screwing around here.

Quote from: dmcdad on January 25, 2014, 03:46:14 PM

All I'm saying is that if you look at the entire history of this SB has ultimately come through with his promises -- it just takes longer than what everyone wants. I don't think the slowness is because of fraudulent intent. Given how messed up the entire situation is because of Avalon's colossal failure to deliver chips in a timely fashion and how this has resulted in a total failure of SB's business, I'm willing to give the guy some slack.

Note this has been true with both chip refunds and delivery of working miners -- he has come through on those, albeit slower than most would like. I think it will also be true with the refunds. In the next week or so we'll know the outcome.

My understanding of the U.S. legal system is that Avalon's failure to ship in no way relieves SB of his responsibility to us for our assembly and shipping charges. Yes, it's Avalon's fault, no question there. However, we have a contract with Steamboat, NOT BitSynCom (Avalon). We have no contract with, and therefore no case against BitSynCom, but we DO have a contract with Steamboat.

If Steamboat wants to recover his losses, he needs to go after BitSynCom in a lawsuit. WE can't do that for him.

Yeah, it's not ideal. But that's how the system works...

EDIT: combined responses

Not only that but steamboat just forwarded bitsyncom chip refund funds less his fee with huge delay. But when he need to refund funds what he got at his own he is nowhere to be found. And hes real work is even more delayed assambled miners. He just have not any valid excuse for his careless.

Edit
Btw thanks cardcomm for the links.