Quote from: keeek on October 29, 2018, 08:37:53 PM

Quote from: tarmo888 on October 29, 2018, 03:55:58 PM

Quote from: keeek on October 29, 2018, 02:30:20 PM

Airdrop lottery
An official raffle could take place via a chatbot. In order not to exploit the system existing Bytes would have to be linked again. The more Bytes are linked, the more lots will be allocated. As a price, at least a relevant amount of min. 10K or better 25K USD should be distributed. I will not raise any acquaintances for a $ 100 profit.

There is already a lottery on Byteball https://lucky.byte-ball.com/
So, I am not sure why there would need to be an official one because that would not go with the idea of "fair distribution".

Quote from: keeek on October 29, 2018, 02:30:20 PM

bytes
I have played a lot with the existing chatbots and come across the problem of the unit "Byte". Constantly you have to switch between MB, GB and Byte. That is impractical. It sucks. Even if you put your wallet on a specific unit, then the chatbot may use another unit and you have to convert again. Bitcoin also has its pennies with Satoshis. We also need these byteball pennies for byteball. The best way to do this is to give it a new name to avoid confusion with other technical units (such as RAM).

I am not aware any bots where you would need to constantly switch between all 4 unit sizes, usually it is MB, in some other cases it is GB. Also, with bots, you actually don't need ever switch between unit sizes because wallet does that for you by sending a payment link in exact value it needs, so if the bot asks you GB or just Bytes then it doesn't matter if your wallet is set to MB. Only time when you need to switch between unit sizes is when you are doing the payment manually and somebody asked you amount in units that you wallet is not set.

So, it is little bit confusing, you say they suck, but at the same time you suggest that there indeed needs to be more that one unit size, only difference is that you suggest that there should be 2? Isn't Gigabyte and megabyte understandably bigger than just bytes? What confusion is there with RAM (that is the whole idea of bytes)? It would be great if the users even know anything about RAM because then GB and MB already makes lot more sense to them than bitcoins and satoshis. How should beginners know, which is bigger? Coins are usually the most valueless amounts in fiat and fiat usually has the notable persons on the most valuable paper notes, yet in this case, it is opposite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_All_About_the_Benjamins

Thanks for your feedback. I want to add something:

Airdrop Lottery
Of course, I know this lottery. But I'm talking about an Airdrop distribution and new users. With the existing Smart Contract lottery you also have to spend bytes to participate. My suggestion is to link the bytes only. In addition, the profit in the existing lottery is far too low to ensure a new spread, since it consists only of the deposits of users. My suggestion is to use the Distribution Fund.

Bytes vs. Dollar / penny
You have to do it as easy as possible. How do you make it easy for people? By giving you something that you already know. People know dollars and cents. You know euros and cents. I mean people know a main and a small unit. This has already worked for Bitcoin. There are many decimal places at Bitcoin and the Satoshis are the cents. Everyone gets it right the first time. We would first have to explain the gigadollar or megaeuro. Of course, this would be a far-reaching change, as many system components need to be rewritten. But if, why not now? Currencies have produced similar units for centuries: a main unit and a penny unit. At the beginning, I also thought that gigabytes, megabytes and bytes would actually be quite elegant, but in reality you force people to use a computer format.

But, the goal of initial distribution is not making some lucky guy rich, the goal is to be a fair initial distribution. So, as many as possible people (especially non-existing cryptocurrency users) will get some bytes. Lottery just makes very few people extremely rich and some linking system is very similar to the same system that airdrop to Bitcoin users already was, including people who already have bytes, not new users https://byteball.org/#dist

You are explaining the exactly the opposite. Yes, everybody knows that Dollar and Euro is bigger than cent or penny, but new users don't know that Bitcoin is bigger than satoshi, they need to learn it first and it is confusing because in real world, coins (metal money) are smaller units than paper money and because more notable people (Benjamin Franklin) are on higher paper money notes. So, if new users have heard Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto then first impression is opposite - Bitcoin seems small unit because it is coin and Satoshi seems big unit because it is notable person (like on paper note). And no, there is not many system components that need to be rewritten, on background Byteball uses Bytes everywhere, kilobyte/megabyte/gigabyte is just a way how to show ridiculously big byte values in comfortable format that makes sense for the user, so instead of displaying 100 000 000 bytes, it can be displayed as 100MB. There is nothing bad about computer format, it is universal, even Google can help you calculate it https://www.google.com/search?q=100000000+bytes+to+megabyte

If Bitcoin/Satoshi makes sense to you, but Byte/KiloByte/MegaByte/GigaByte doesn't then you have misunderstood something. Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies, the amount you have them, doesn't relate to what you can do with them, the value in them is constantly changing. On Byteball, 1MB means that you can do transactions or store data that takes 1MB of space on DAG database.