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You two keep hamming it away with each other, Personally I think both of you are a complete joke. Anybody who hassles people for questioning the legitimacy of requesting 36 million online from complete strangers is either getting paid as a shill by the company or has no sense of reality.

You have to be fuckin absolutey living in a bubble for hassling people that are questioning the legality of a totally strange entity asking strangers on the internet based off a youtube ad to invest up to 36 million. Why dont you sell your home and car and give them all of your own money before asking the bitcoin community to give them 36 million upfront with no risk. LMAO you are classic, you must think everyone on here is dumb that questions their motives. I think its the exact opposite.

Please leave. There is no value to your existence.

Why don't you leave? What kind of idiot encourages people to invest millions based off a youtube ad? What is the harm in demanding more transparency and compliance with regulations? Do you buy a used car without checking the the engine or if a guy tries to sell you a diamond on the street do you immediately pay him based on his looks? I highly doubt it, even small investments you would take the time to check it out before you handed over a single dollar. And here you are apparently advocating everyone in the bitcoin community to give these guys millions with zero transparency or insurance that they are in compliance with laws. So if for some reason they disappear once the money is transferred what then? You and everyone will start crying because you didn't realize what you were getting in to. ARe you going to guarantee everyone's money with your pitiful life savings? Not going to happen to you right? Sure when its not your fracking money what do you care? But if you you were going to buy anything worth of any remote value you would make sure that you are not getting scammed. In a public forum where your money is not at risk, now its ok to just plow million into this entity with absolutely no assurance of whats going on? Hypocrite, lets see you do this type of business deal everyday in your business life. You dont fukin care right now and talk shit because it wont be your money and if you do, it will be a small negligible amount.

Edit: read your previous posts, now it all makes sense. You have a vested interest in this coin succeeding. No wonder you made that comment. Only a shill or someone with principal interest would damn someone for questioning why there isn't more transparency for an entity asking for 36 million from internet strangers.

They are NXTers. And low tier to boot. They are followers; you can't expect them to question authority.
I for one thank you for wording my doubts.

30,000 BTC or 300 BTC, does not matter - there is no wrong question when you're asking other people's money.
but if you're dealing with 30,000 BTC, no stone should be left unturned within legal and contractual framework.

LOL at all these requests. Here the disclaimer comes first. I am not investing a single cent in Ethereum for some other reasons. But

You guys are clueless about Bitcoin and crypto movements in general. Crypto movements are grey areas, if the government understand them a bit more they will probably ban them outright. So you are pretty much on your own because you cant request them to provide you the impossible. If in the future Ethereum, and also NXT prove to be viable and working well; then all current fundraising, IPO laws, financial regulations, capital movement restrictions are going to be re-written. If these laws hold strong, then that would mean all of these protocols will be banned. Either ways anything you are requesting now will be useless.

First rule of crypto invseting: only invest what you can afford to lose.

Oh great thanks for clarifying things, if you say it, it must be true. Believe it or not, there are rules governing crowdfundraising 36 million dollars. Just because they are not complying doesn't mean they are acting legally. And so nice of you to let everyone know you will nothing to do with this coin, but oh yea go ahead and invest as much money as you want because buyer beware. That's not how it works in the financial community, It's follow all regulations according to your federal law regarding crowd fundraising, file the appropriate documents, get verified and bonded and then release full disclosure transparency to all interested investors. They lost their small time, we are just coin devs privilege once they decided to fundraise 36 million dollars. Now, yes they can skirt the laws and unless someone actually starts an investigation, they can get away with it. But believe me, if they did not follow proper procedure and someone loses even a bit of money they can get sued or shut down by the government, doesn't matter what country they operate out of. That's why anyone thinking of investing a sizeable amount should think twice before investing a dime presale. If they get shut down, guess who is long gone with their bitcoins. So yea you are proving my point, buyer beware, but if some strangers are asking you for 36 million and a pot of gold, dont you think it would be prudent to ask for due diligence? Is everyone so blinded that they are just willing to ignore a simple principle to trust but verify? Sick people.

I am not saying anything about valuation of Ethereum. What I say mainly is about the nature of crypto industry which I think Satoshi, Sunny King and BCNext understand well but not the guys from Mastercoin, Protoshares, Emuine and Ethereum. This basis only is enough for me to not invest in these ventures regardless of the valuations.

@nesco1805 : No I am not confused about securities and crypto; Mastercoin, Protoshares, Emuine and Ethereum guys are confused between these two concepts; and you and gutshot5820 confuse yourself because you think these guys are not confused.

Exactly this!