Quote from: sharky112065 on August 22, 2011, 11:30:44 PM

You know hopping is wrong. You know you are screwing the people that do not hop. If every one hopped very few blocks would get solved. The pool op has stated very clearly "Pool hoppers are not welcome here".

I know what he has stated, and as soon as I can read this on the deepbit page I will take my consequences. You are not right saying that if everyone hopped very few blocks would get solved. If everyone hopped there were other problems, such that all hashing power would be concentrated at one point, but it surely doesn't lead to no blocks solved.

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Use all the justifications that make it OK in your head that you want. It is still wrong to do it and you know it.

I use no justifications to make something OK in my head. Please accept that there are different understanding of pool hopping, and I _seriously_(!) think that it is OK. Will the next thing be that you accuse me of being crazy because I have a different opinion and understanding of it?

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The current system allows for an occasional problem when a miner is having issues and you still get paid for shares submitted. Pool hoppers abuse this and eventually we will all be screwed because of the changes made to stop them.

Stop being childish, hold yourself accountable for your actions and stop blame shifting.

Please let's stay on a calm level. People make such aggressive discussions on pool hopping because quite everyone mining, does it purely for profit. If you really cared about profit, you would hop. If you don't care about profits so much you would not care mining at a pool that is not the most profitable anymore, and don't start with something like "ethics", this is nothing about ethics. Bitcoin is a currency and the additional funds in the transaction blocks are created to motivate mining. Apparently it's possible for a great profit with or without hopping.

And again I see the common misunderstanding that an other system like PPLNS will be unfair or screw occasional miners. It's wrong, and I'm not talking about an opinion here. Just the variance increases slightly. This is exactly the issue I was talking about, the lack of really understanding pool hopping and why a system like PPLNS prevents it and is fair even for occasional miners! The common misbelief is spread by people like you and Tycho, because it is hard to understand. I give up at this point.