Quote from: Spendulus on October 31, 2018, 10:41:48 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on October 31, 2018, 10:35:59 PM

Quote from: Moloch on October 31, 2018, 09:48:58 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on October 31, 2018, 02:54:15 PM

The 14th amendment has been used incorrectly. People who were born in the US and who do not reside the US should never have been given citizenships.

The 14th amendment was written to give former slaves citizenship. It was used correctly to give citizenship to anyone born in this country, regardless of whether their parents were citizens or slaves or whatever.

I'm not saying a pregnant woman from another country should be able to fly to the US in 2018 and have a kid who gets automatic citizenship, but that is the way the constitution is worded... and as mentioned before, there is over 100 years of precedent to overturn if you want to change the way the law is interpreted

I know. I see two issues with it today.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Foreigners and their children without legal status are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US, nor do they reside (legally) in the US.

Pregnant women DAILY hit US side border hospitals, have their baby and return to Mexico a few days later. Neither the mom, dad or child "reside" anywhere in the USA. It's no different than if I travel to Mexico and stay in a hotel. I do not reside in Mexico, I am only there for a few days.

Really this should be an issue that left and right can find agreement on.

I did not know that. And what are the US consulates in Mexico doing about it? I guess these ladies are trekking the hills without any visas.

The US government can fix this issue by not registering such births. Only a mother with a green card or a passport card should be allowed to register her babies in the Vital Records.