Quote from: Thul on November 01, 2018, 06:19:48 AM

Quote from: cryptohunter on October 31, 2018, 10:33:24 PM

However, if a small fringe for example wants to sell CP then that small fringe should not be allowed to spoil things for the greater majority.

Who wants to draw the line?
Meanwhile I know the claim of millitarian groups who want to push through their moral concepts with all their might.
Whoever makes an exception at CP is also quick at heavy weapons and contract killers. If this limit is crossed, normal armament is no longer acceptable. Drugs, even light ones, are the next victim of censorship. And then, of course, any material that shows even the beginnings of a naked female breast.

If you allow censorship, we will very soon have such conditions that we already know from the Fiat world.
The fact that this has already had to be discussed in your community shows me the tendency in which the guardians of virtue finally gain the upper hand.

Those who cannot bear free goods and services with all the, perhaps abstruse facets, should stay on ebay.

The cryptoworld will anyway be only a niche for a long time, and that's exactly how you should look at a cryptomarket: To get goods and services that are not so easy to find in the regulated Fiat world.

We are at the beginning of a fascist world order with total surveillance of each individual. Nothing is therefore more urgently needed than a truly free market through which the military industrial complex and state terrorism is not financed by taxes.

What are you talking about? If you knew anything about me you would know that's not how any of my products work! I've been preaching freedom from governments and coding until my fingers bleed to make this software. It's the only 2 party escrow software and was the first smart contracts before ETH. The markets have been working for almost 4 years.

First of all you say it's censored but who is this ominous censor you are talking about? The way the moderation system works is users can flag orders if it somehow goes against whats supposed to be posted in a market and it's peer to peer so there is no central decision maker who decides when to pull an offer. There is a moderation key which goes out to volunteers who want to mop up the internet. But you should realize that this task is actually almost impossible. The Bitmessage system works a lot like TOR but has advantages over it namely because it's end to end encrypted so there is no such thing as an exit node... messages simply hop around all the time and that hides the sender. This encryption at receivers end protects you because there is no way for anyone to know if you can access a market or it's orders. Private markets make it almost impossible for people to breach your privacy because they would need the decryption key. Not to mention people can do contracts over email or Bitmessage peer to peer

Now with that said, we do encourage people not to post illegal content. The risk falls on the users. This is no different from purchasing a fire arm or something where it's up to the person to use it to mitigate their own risks. The voluntary moderation key doesn't come with a set of instructions or guidelines. It's to protect us so we can keep coding unhindered. If the market was flooded with darknet stuff then I would never have been able to do my job and code this thing. That doesn't take away from the value of the tools that are supplied here. ESPECIALLY two party escrow AKA unbreakable contracts to which I challenge you to find a more perfect decentralized alternative to enforcement of agreements (you won't).

Let me also point out that these markets can't be censored or shut down. Even if I wanted to shut them down I couldn't.

If you are talking about censorship then buddy you are barking up the wrong tree. I've been the first to denounce governments and the freedoms they stole from everyone. Of course the best world is one without governments at all. Decentralized tech is meant to bridge the divide and when you start to preach that we are censoring you are blinded not realizing who is here fighting for basic human rights. We want to commercialize good business practices and technology and enlighten people to the future of free internet tech. As for governments, it's not just thought crimes they persecute... people can't sell raw milk, they can't plant a tree anywhere they want, they can't go outside naked which is their god given right (being born into the world without clothes to wear). Peoples human rights have been so hijacked modern day culture has become barbaric and unrecognizable to it's true destiny and nature. It's only accepted by the relatively silent black sheep minority because of "might makes right" and the threat of violence through law which keeps them at Bay. Once people are willing to die and fight for their beliefs, that might change. However that's not so easy considering they get everyone indoctrinated in the school system at such a young age.

Decentralization isn't just about decentralizing the internet. To truly have a decentralized internet you somehow need to get rid of the Telcom and use 3d printed devices and manufacturing. It's just a modern way of telling people to not depend on others and to "decentralize" such as community farms and gardens, off grid tech, cheap construction methods such as cob/ceb or recycled materials... etc

So anyways you uninstalled the software. A few things about this. The Linux build has not been updated in a while because I've been out of the country due to a serious injury. I'm starting to feel a little better and will be home shortly and will fix the Linux build. If it said it was 1% after a day then it probably wasn't syncing. Linux used to work fine but one of the builds had a broken package so I have to fix all of that. Regardless we have had many Linux users for the past 4 years. The markets populate on their own and there is usually always about 10 orders or so. However we are testing the dynamic peg lately so I think most users are just waiting for that.