Quote from: cryptohunter on November 02, 2018, 05:36:36 PM

Quote from: tarmo888 on November 02, 2018, 01:43:43 PM

Quote from: cryptohunter on November 02, 2018, 10:54:36 AM

You simply need a leadership who can bring the plenty around to their way of thinking. On the deeper technical aspects it is not essential the plenty understand what is beyond their scope. However on other more straight forward matters discussion is required to build a strong community. Without that then it is highly unlikely you will get the network effect required to become relevant here. When a community feels it is ignored it will move away to other projects.

I like tony and he seems very honest and hardworking. He should employ a good community manager whom can interface with him and the community.

I wish that would be true, but unfortunately people have not moved on, they still whine here on Bitcointalk, every day is like film Groundhog Day.

Byteball has nice community in Slack and Reddit where FUDers get banned or downvoted, only Bitcointalk is the only one that is still toxic and full of people who have not moved on.

It is impossible to read any announcements here because these posts get buried with constant whining about something that happened 10 months ago.

What you wish is of no matter to the project really. What the majority wish for is far more important.

When a significant proportion of the community are asking for things that are ignored without a debate then that is damaging to the community.

The fact you are wishing for the community to leave for other projects because they are disturbed by the fact tony does not listen to the very reasonable requests of many here and will not even offer debate is a sign that you are not suitable to interact as the community manager. In fact with this attitude I would say your connection to the project is very damaging.

When people brand things as FUD when they are actually observable events where they demonstrate that the team fucked up you know there is an issue.

Bitcointalk is a place where you can't downvote and silence people that easily.

I see no FUD in what I presented to you. Let's hear your side. I await with interest when people want to convince others that presenting observable events is FUD.

If you are the new spokesman for byteball then this is a step back from Tonych just ignoring valid points.

Whining ... I hear this word a lot when those making poor decisions are explaining to investors why they must pay for their gross errors of judgment.

Noob trash, even coders have no experience with bitcointalk's community and if you are thinking you can leave and build echo chambers and circle jerk each other off and build a network effect anything like you can at bitcointalk you are again wrong. This is the jumping ground for new crypto investors. So master building a community here or whither and die elsewhere.

DAG is not the buzz term it once was so byteball will have to actually out perform other projects in real functional terms to get ahead now.

If you really are part of the byteball team you need to realise your comments are here for good and therefore it is best not to put the byteball team in a bad light.

I think you missed the semantics of what people usually mean by saying "I wish that what you say would be true", so you don't have to explain me the majority wish, that was not the point of that sentence.

I am not sure why you trying to pin the community manager role on me, I have never said that I have this role, I am just a developer and these are my personal opinions.

Maybe you don't see a Byteball community managers here on Bitcointalk because they find it hopeless to have any serious discussions here, where everybody just shouts out their opinions how things should be done, over and over again. It could be also because Bitcointalk lacks proper moderation like Reddit has.

And here is what you get totally wrong: Byteball team does listen (community has forced it to hire a branding agency), but community wishes are not commands, so you can't say that they should do this or that, and everything is not up for debate. If you are suggesting something that changes the fundamentals of this coin then you are always free to fork it. There are already some forks of Byteball andt this is same for other projects as well, if you don't like Bitcoin ASICs, you fork it and make it ASIC-resistant.

Same way with Bitcoin, if you start telling that Bitcoin should use micro-Bitcoin instead of Bitcoin because BTC looks too expensive, nobody will take you seriously. Nice idea, but no go. If you build your own service that handles Bitcoin, you are free to use whatever units you want, same way with Byteball - on bots it is whatever the developer thinks makes sense, but on exchanges it's GBYTE.