Quote from: Murwa on August 24, 2011, 11:35:16 AM

Quote from: jtimon on August 24, 2011, 11:00:46 AM

You need food to rise your children, not money. You don't have to use money within anarchy: you can be self-sufficient.

Food and much more ... nevertheless in that case you have to spend your "freedom" on food production. That is just moving backward in time.

What are you talking about? You freely chose to spend your time growing food, probably because you want to eat.

Quote from: Murwa on August 24, 2011, 11:35:16 AM

Quote from: jtimon on August 23, 2011, 02:52:24 PM

How can everyday data tell us anything about Ripple (a brand new concept) or freigeld (a concept only used at the local level)?
At most the everyday data tell us that the current monetary system is obsolete.

Ok lets not get into details here i dont know about all that. But we agree be it gold standard or fiat money should be done with.

I agree both moneys are flawed. But I think many of the flaws you see today are exclusive in national fiats. Gold is better than that we have today.
I think bitcoin doesn't solve the interest problem, but is better than gold and national fiats.

Quote from: Murwa on August 24, 2011, 11:35:16 AM

Quote from: jtimon on August 23, 2011, 02:52:24 PM

Although monetary incentives fail to increase the creativity of this non mechanic workers, we still need a way to measure the goodness of the entrepreneur's innovations.
The only way I see to measure it is the demand for the products of the innovation.

in RBE people have demands too , you know. What you get is not imposed on you in any way. Maybe only how you got it ( depending on values for example good or energy produced in a sustainable for environment way )
And you have science that can tell about efficiency of all innovation.

Discussing if science alone can run a whole society again is a waste of time in my opinion. Did you watch that praxeology video?

Quote from: Murwa on August 24, 2011, 11:35:16 AM

Quote from: jtimon on August 23, 2011, 02:52:24 PM

If you have agreed that money is responsible for the specialization and civilization. Don't you think that it could be dangerous to remove it?

TZM is not about removing all money in one day. Obviously that would be dangerous. Perhaps some sort of hybrid or transition period that include currency ( one of those you are linking that is not debt based and so on ) could work. But the end goal should be elimination of money .

Ok, there's alternative moneys that you admit you don't understand but you're sure they have to be eliminated.