Quote from: miahallen on January 27, 2014, 06:29:39 PM

WOW, my legitimate concerns have been confirmed now, and you have been proved to be on the wrong side of this debate...yet you continue to defend CT despite their clear failures. Are you a shill? Or just defending a position you've over-invested yourself in emotionally?

really? someone doesn't agree with you and they're a shill?

you can't possibly be pragmatic and think of the best longterm value proposition, or is it better to be right, regardless of how much value you extract?

im not on the wrong side on 'the debate' there's a debate - there is no 'wrong side' - and i try to be balanced and consider both sides of any argument.

In this case I'm trying to focus on the big picture. How to maximise value from our mining gear.

im not defending CT. I'm waiting for my boxes just like you. AND i want to extract maximum value out of my boxes - which means getting them sooner, and is much more important to me than whether they run at full speed or with a 15-20% under clock

Do you agree that the difficulty rises by about 20-30% each level change? Thus you know that every week of delay in shipping, has a lost value to us equal to the diff change?

So.. what would you prefer that cointerra do - when faced with this situation? ship boxes as fast as they can, whatever speed they run?... or take their time tweaking it, and deliver it when it can hit 2 TH - even if that could be 8 weeks away?

actually. lets put this in terms that are easier to compare... do we prefer CT try to be more like KNC... and deliver quickly to customers... or more like HF, who are tweaking indefinitely and seem in no hurry to ship to customers ? since the lateness of the hardware has a bigger impact on its ability to mine bitcoins, than exactly how fast it runs... don't we all agree that shipping the Jan customers sooner at 1.6 TH/s is Wayyy better than shipping later, at 2 TH/s?

Which one do you prefer? I know which i prefer... i want my TerraMiner BOX, NOW... even if it only hashes at 1.6 TH/s box - rather than wait 8 weeks for a 2 TH/s box. Sure, the later batch customers will get a faster box than i will. but i will have received my boxes sooner, and will have had a bigger benefit from mining earlier.

and yes, i want compensation too... but i care about the delivery of my box quickly much more than i care about whether I'm going to get a bonus or refund or discount or whatever they decide to do. One week earlier shipping, more than covers any nickel or dime i could squeeze out of them in refunds or other comps.

As for how shilly i am... my record speaks for itself.. I've made a few hundred posts. you can see how biassed or balanced i am. and also, i'm not an anonymous bitointalk handle... you know who i am. perhaps i should also remind that i've got just as big - actually, bigger order with hashfast as i do with cointerra. and i am also a knc customer... and bitfury... and bfl.. and previously also asicminer investor. in short, I've nothing to gain from shilling... all i want is to mine productively and earn as many coins as possible. if cointerra has good hardware for that so be it. currently, I've been mining with knc jupiters and they've done well for me and I'm extremely happy with them as a company, and the boxes themselves.

i try and spread my eggs, and operate a portfolio approach to my mining gear. i try not to pick sides.. and try to de-risk my purchases by ordering a bunch from several of the asic companies at the same time. but i don't order from all of them, because i don't always agree with some of their technical or business decisions. but that doesn't mean i go around dissing them either.