Quote from: Thul on November 14, 2018, 11:31:01 AM

Quote from: Random-String-Symphony on November 14, 2018, 10:43:33 AM

He was anonymous, the network can't be secured by anonymous witnesses.

I advise everyone not to use a centralized system of twelve openly working witnesses = easy target for state attacks.

Quote from: Random-String-Symphony on November 14, 2018, 10:43:33 AM

I'm sure Bytefan was just trying to help but he did it in the wrong way.

There speaks once again the accustomed arrogance.
Who decides what is right or wrong?

Quote from: Random-String-Symphony on November 14, 2018, 10:43:33 AM

Rogier is not some kind of buffoon, he's a Byteball volunteer since the early days as well.

Nobody cares about that later anyway. People take what is preset. Nobody is involved in the preliminary selection of any witnesses of whom he doesn't know anybody anyway.

Come to your senses at last
- the number of witnesses should not be limited. Anyone who wants to be a witness should be able to do so.
- routes the witnesses over TOR
- client-side, random access to the witnesses

The protocol design decides what is right or wrong, it states that witnesses must be public figures or organizations with a real word reputation at stake. Otherwise the consensus mechanism is not secure. It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's a matter of design. If you don't like this principle I suggest you find another project because it is not going to change, it's fundamental to the design. Nothing to do with arrogance.

Numerous times people in this thread, including me, have tried to explain to you that a state attack on a witness doesn't mean the network stops working. I can't help it that you don't want to understand how witnesses work and what they can and can not do.

Not all people / users have to care, it would be preferable but if they don't: at least hub operators and other witnesses should care. If they do the system will work almost just as well. If nobody cares then the design will fail.

The number of witnesses is not limited, anybody can become one.
They already operate over TOR, it is a requirement to not reveal their IP to the world.
Random selection of (and access to) witnesses defeats the purpose, you still don't understand why they can't be anonymous and what they actually do to secure the network.