Quote from: jwinterm on November 14, 2018, 01:22:03 PM

Quote from: CryptoUnicornRider on November 14, 2018, 12:48:13 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on November 14, 2018, 11:59:17 AM

Byteball gets a shout out by US army:
http://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/tag/byteball/

Not really in a positive way, but interesting that they found it it even noteworthy. The article they cite is in Russian, but from the title suggests byteball is under Russian government control.

If you think about it, take the assumption that byteball was funded by Russian intelligence, it was probably a worthwhile venture that collected valuable information and has probably paid for itself many times over.

When Putin for next "decentralized" witness? Cheesy

Hello jwinterm,

So, because it was founded by a Russian guy, maybe even a Russian intelligence guy, the Byteball technical proposal doesn't deserve respect ?

Who was Satoshi Nakamoto ? Could it be a CIA guy or group trying to make CIA money less trackable ?

Your argument is ridiculous.

Btw, thank you for the article :-)

It's quite a bit different than Bitcoin as I'm sure you're aware, considering one Russian guy is in control of the entire network, but that's not really what I was alluding to in terms of it being a potentially worthwhile venture for Russian intelligence.

Let's say they spent a few hundred thousand USD funding byteball and getting it off the ground. Now they get thousands of bitcoin users linking their coins to get bytes, followed by real name attestation of thousands of users, as well as steem attestation of users. For people that did all three, the Russian intelligence (or at the very least Tony) can tie together the real name, Bitcoin holdings, and political proclivities of thousands of people. Don't you think political operatives or tax authorities or police state might find this information useful? Even if it's not an intelligence operation, doesn't it make you somewhat squeamish that Tony could sell this information to Cambridge analytica or its ilk?

Yes, there's a meme about maybe the CIA launched Bitcoin, but it's not nearly such a straight line as this, and Satoshi never asked for your drivers license and a selfie.

Sorry for the whining. Carry on berating bag holders...

Hi jwinterm,

Yes, indeed, these data could be used against holders by tax administrations and governments.

But it's a naive way of thinking. When I want to buy bitcoins in my country, I have several choices. Unfortunately, in most of them, I have to provide my phone number or go trough a KYC process. Obviously, there are other means to proceed but in most of them, there is always a fingerprint which authorities can follow easily if they consider that I'm a person of interest.

And last methods available to acquire some btc are potentially dangerous.

Worst, if I want to sell my btc or other cryptos without risk, I have always to provide a data that will allow my government to find me if it wishes. Obviously, I can try to sell it dangerously for cash in streets.

And if I want to trade some shitcoins, I have several no-KYC platforms at my disposal but at my own risks obviously. And all good ones require a KYC process.

Basically, I cannot hide without assuming safety risks for myself. So, why trying to hide myself when my money is honest ?

Don't be sorry for the whining because I understand it. I could do the same thing but I have to be rational and defend my bag. The best way I found to defend it, it's investing myself to educate people to how powerful is the Byteball technology and the opportunity it represents for the future.

My point is definitely not to offend people or to mock them but I hate disloyal arguments and unfair/ignorant propaganda. For instance, using the russophobia against Byteball is an unfair argument in my opinion. And when we know the Byteball KYC process goes through Jumio which is a US company related to US banking system, it's yet more unfair and disloyal.

Obviously, everybody is welcome on the Byteball BitcoinTalk thread but courtesy is required to keep the thread useful to the biggest number possible. That's all.

See you soon ;-)